Posted on 04/29/2022 4:34:02 PM PDT by rustyboots
I recently advertised one of my rifles for sale on a web site in Texas. I received a reply from an individual that stated he was in Melbourne, Florida. He states he has an FFL to receive the rifle from my local FFL. On April 15, he stated he would send me a certified check. His secretary did the check wrong, but that has apparently been corrected. The check entered the USPS system on April 22 in Philadelphia, PA. Wife suggests this just may be his bank and where it is located. I still do not have a phone number for him, name of a local FFL dealer in Melbourne, Fl. Check is in state, and I need to sign for it Monday to complete this deal. Am I being overly paranoid wondering because a guy in Melbourne, Fl, is reading gun web sites in Texas, wants my rifle, and will send a check that maybe coming from a bank in Philadelphia, or at least was mailed from Philadelphia? FFL to FFl does give me some legal cover, but still????
I have a genuine M1 Carbine, Rockola rifle. I would sell it in as is condition for 2K. In military armorers stock, parkerized, adjustable peep site from armory refurb. Shoots very accurately, so the barrel is not shot out.
“Accept the check and wait until it clears then ship.”
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No, no, no. The check may “clear” and the funds credited to your account only to be deducted several weeks later once the bank finds out it is a fraudulent check.
This is obviously a scam.
Although it may LOOK LIKE a certified check, it could still bounce.
Tell him you will not send him anything until the check clears the bank.
Now, the bank may see it- these fakes look very real- and they may CASH it and give you money but 2 weeks later thy will tell you it bounced and you have to give the money back (probably with extra fees charged)
Tell the sell you are waiting until the check clears COMPLETELY. If he is real he will wait around. If he disappears then you know he is a fake.
DO NOT SEND ANYTHING until the bank confirms the check did not bounce.
And that is just the MONEY aspect of this. Go to a local dealer (who has a legit license) and ask about how FFL works.
But I would put good money on it that it is fake
I do this all the time. Look at #8 and wait until it clears.
You’re not obligated to do squat until the money is in your account and legit.
What year? I’ve got one that is post WWII. 1968. My dad still has his, 1944.
When I’ve bought high-end audio gear, I used escrow services to make sure I wasn’t getting screwed. You send the money to the escrow service, they hold the money in escrow until the product arrives at the buyer, then the buyer authorizes the escrow service to pay the seller. It’s worked very well for me.
I would imagine you could apply the same service to the FFL - FFL transaction.
I was not aware that Rockola made any after WWII.
My bad. I didn’t recognize the manufacturer. My dads is an Inland. Mines a Plainfield. Yours sounds like it’s more of a collectors piece than mine and probably my dads.
The problem is that most people believe a Cashier’s Check is legal tender.
It’s no different than a personal check, just drawn upon funds held by a bank (i.e., by the bank’s ‘cashier’).
It holds no guarantee that those funds are available.
Don’t do it. This sounds hinky, go with your gut.
By the way, tell me about the rifle
From the link...
“When the funds are made available in your account, the bank may say the check has “cleared,” but that doesn’t mean it’s a good check.”
“You don’t sound legit.”
Yeah, dont trust anyone with the word rusty in their screenname.
Is he nigerian ?
Run away from this.
might check his FFL out.
https://fflezcheck.atf.gov/FFLEzCheck/
when in doubt, don’t.
Nope. Just because it clears doesn’t mean it won’t bounce later. It’s a scam.
In this day and age, there are plenty of reputable money transfer services out there other than PayPal, which can be spoofed, btw.
No idea on this, but a local FFL was letting copies of his FFL out to customers to speed along FFL transfers from online sites, and apparently one customer somehow changed stuff on the FFL to get his guns shipped straight to him, and cut the real FFL out of the deal. It was picked up on and dealt with after a few transfers, but I think it showed an FFL to FFL might not be what you think. It is only definitely legit if everybody is obeying the law, which they might not be.
So don’t assume you can easily trace the gun through the FFL if there is an issue. It may get delivered to a fake FFL at an empty broom closet somewhere.
What make’s your rifle so special? Fellow in FL wants it so much he spends how much time online to find it, but then gets his “secretary” to “mail a check” and can’t tell you his local FFL dealer? I doubt it’s genuine; even if it is, the buyer sounds like a dreamer who thinks the world revolves around him; and is best avoided ... IMHO
List it on Texasguntalk.com and sell it locally. Lot’s of good guys on there.
Are they not one of the outfits declining to work with firearms dealers?
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