Ken Ham — Guardian of True Science

The Sensuous Curmudgeon ^ | February 11, 2017 | The Curmudgeon

[EveningStar]

Creationists don’t like The Clergy Letter Project, a strong, pro-evolution statement signed by over 13,000 Christian clergymen. Here’s the Wikipedia article on it: Clergy Letter Project. The Project is exceedingly troublesome for creationists because it flatly contradicts their claim that one can’t be a good Christian and also accept evolution.

When we say the Clergy Letter is a strong statement, we’re not exaggerating. Part of it says:

We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator.

Among those who dislike the Clergy Letter Project is Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo), the ayatollah of Appalachia, famed not only for his creationist ministry, Answers in Genesis (AIG), but also for the infamous, mind-boggling Creation Museum, and for building an exact replica of Noah’s Ark. He is unquestionably the world’s holiest man who knows more about religion and science than everyone else.

[Gil4]

...it flatly contradicts their claim that one can’t be a good Christian and also accept evolution.

So it's impossible to have 13,000 clergy who aren't good Christians?

[Lera]

[[[[pro-evolution statement signed by over 13,000 Christian clergymen.]]

Pinging the end times ping list

That’s over 13,000 clergymen that call God a liar
(left out Christian because how can you love Jesus and not love his word ? They aren’t Christian clergymen , they are hirelings that call God a liar)

He has magnified his word above his name. These hirelings don’t believe , they don’t belong behind a pulpit.

(Psalms 138:2) I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

(Psalms 121:2) My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth.

God reveals himself through his creation and these people deny him as creator

(Psalms 19:1) To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

(Psalms 19:2) Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

(Psalms 19:3) There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

(Psalms 19:4) Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

(Psalms 19:5) Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

(Psalms 19:6) His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

They are without excuse

(Romans 1:18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

(Romans 1:19) Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

(Romans 1:20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

What they are is fools that believe a fairly that things randomly happen , they don’t belong behind a pulpit and they aren’t Christians . They call God a liar

(Romans 1:22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

[TexasGator]

Back up a couple of posts in the thread.

[grey_whiskers]

Intelligent Design does not require God.

Begging the question. As St. Paul wrote, "In Him we live and move and have our being."

Or, to paraphrase the old joke, "NO! Get your own dirt."

Humans can engineer via Intelligent Design.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Like Windows ME?

[TexasGator]

Back up a couple of posts in this thread.

[Elsie]

We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth,

I know; for a scientific FACT; that no Evolutionist has clue One about where Life; itself; began.

They can 'trace back' to Primordial Goo; but no further (or farther; if you so prefer).

They cannot say when Plant life and Animal split apart; one to breath in Carbon Dioxide and exhale Oxygen and the other just the reverse.

They cannot say how symbiotic relationships come about where One type of plant and One type of animal rely on each other ONLY for existence.

[Elsie]

Evolution has a basic problem. It has no starting point.

I shudda read ahead; again...

[Elsie]

That is not evolution’s problem.

True. It's just one of them.

[Elsie]

I find it amazing that Evolutionists might BELIEVE in the Theory; but none actually practice it.

Have they not all got MEDICAL INSURANCE?

Are they not trying to AVOID what Evolution has in store for THEM and their families?

[Elsie]

The Judeo-Christian diety has no starting point

"In the beginning GOD...

[Elsie]

I miss the good ol’ days of heated debate.

AMEN!!!

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America now has Trump;
Rome now has Francis;
Our Mormon FRiends have become practically invisible since Mitt fizzled;
So just who is left to play with?

[Elsie]

Humans can engineer via Intelligent Design.

Does this make God irrelevant in the course of human history?

No.

Don't you realize that it is Human Intelligent Designers; all the way down?

[Elsie]

The Ein Sof sounds an awful lot like the physicists' big bang.

Somewhere after the BB; Life appears.

No one KNOWS how; while some BELIEVE how.

[Elsie]

OK Your the expert. I just try to learn.

Let me suggest that we ALL are blind men; grasping a different part of the beast.

[ealgeone]

So just who is left to play with?

And some even hide amongst the caucus because they're afraid to play!

[MHGinTN]

Hear here!

[MHGinTN]

And hear here!

[MHGinTN]

Wow, this threaded started with such promise! ... I’ll read further ...

[Poison Pill]

I don't think you're really following our conversation unless you believe god came into existence simultaneously with the creation of the world.

[fishtank]

The Clergy Letter Project has been officially endorsed by the Presbyterian Church (USA). The 2016 General Assembly voted overwhelmingly in favor on 22 June 2016.

The Clergy Letter Project has been officially endorsed by The United Methodist Church worldwide!

To read a piece entitled "The Rightful Place of Science In Church" by Bishop Sally Dyck, Minnesota Annual Conference, United Methodist Church, click here.

Similarly, click here to read a piece entitled "The Clergy Letter Project" by Bishop Ernest S. Lyght, West Virginia Annual Conference, United Methodist Church.

The Clergy Letter Project has been officially endorsed by the Presbytery of the Cascades, a governing body that includes 101 Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) congregations

The Clergy Letter Project has been officially endorsed by the Southeast Florida Diocese of the Episcopal Church!

The Clergy Letter Project has been officially endorsed by the Southwestern Washington Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America! Read more about the endorsement here.