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1177 BCE, the year a perfect storm destroyed civilization
Haaretz ^
| April 13, 2015
| Julia Fridman
Posted on 05/03/2015 3:35:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Sometime after 1200 BCE, civilization collapsed, and a dark age prevailed.
The Late Bronze Age collapse of societies throughout the Levant, the Near East and the Mediterranean some 3,200 years ago has been a mystery. Powerful, advanced civilizations disappeared, seemingly overnight. Now an archaeologist believes he has figured out what lay behind the cataclysm.
The trigger seems to have been the invasion of ancient Egypt in 1177 BCE by marauding peoples known simply as the Sea Peoples, as recorded in the Medinet Habu wall relief at Ramses III' tomb. The relief depicts a sea battle (and also carts full of supplies, women and children, something that always puzzled researchers. Why would the women and children have been at a sea battle, and why were there chariots? Did they bring them on ships as well?) The foreigners were depicted wearing distinct head gear....
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TOPICS: History; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: 1177bc; archaeology; bronzeage; bronzeagecollapse; catastrophism; civilization; eberhardzangger; egypt; ericcline; erichcline; godsgravesglyphs; history; levant; medinethabu; peleset; peopleofthesea; pereset; ramses3; ramsesiii; seapeople; seapeoples
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; dp0622; fso301; PetroniusMaximus; Jack Hydrazine; catnipman; Popman; re_nortex; ...
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:02:25 PM PDT
by
Rocky
(The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwel)
To: catnipman
To: proxy_user
It works on Google News, but not plain Google
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:04:23 PM PDT
by
gattaca
(Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The trigger seems to have been the invasion of ancient Egypt in 1177 BCE by marauding peoples known simply as the Sea Peoples, ... Sea peoples?
...Marines?
Must have been one hell of a liberty call.
I can't imagine the First Sergeant's a$$ chewing for blowing up the whole of civilization on a foreign port call.
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:06:05 PM PDT
by
Riley
(The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sometime after 1200 BCE, civilization collapsed, and a dark age prevailed. Around the period 1800 BC to 1200 BC, the technology to make carbon steel was discovered around where Turkey currently is.
Bronze was expensive. Only an aristocratic warrior caste would have bronze swords and armor.
Carbon steel would have made weapons cheap enough to make, that a whole tribe could be armed. They could thus outnumber the Egyptian warriors. That could also explain the drawings of families: the whole tribe would have been in migration. The technological breakthrough of iron would mean that they could overrun older societies.
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:06:30 PM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
To: Mastador1
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:06:37 PM PDT
by
fr_freak
To: Tzfat; catnipman
Well, since Jesus was not born at year zero (6 BCE) your point is simple evidence of ignorance.
Oh, sure - that six year difference PROVES that this new date scheme has nothing to do with trying to whitewash Christ from history. LOL
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:09:13 PM PDT
by
fr_freak
To: PapaBear3625
IIRC, the Hittites perfected carbon steel for swordmaking & the Egyptians knew their copper swords were no match.
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:09:31 PM PDT
by
elcid1970
("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
To: Mastador1; wardaddy; Tzfat; proxy_user
Per the leftists ideology, BCE stands for "Before Common Era", thus denying Christ. See this article when the ultra-liberal BBC mandated that the mere mention of Christ be
expunged from their reporting. There have been a number of Free Republic threads about the BC vs. BCE issue. FReeper stalwart and unabashed Patriot wardaddy said it best:
Its total denial BS to rename something which means Before Christ just for secular sake when it doesnt change the fact of how the epoch change is determined...Christ Birth.
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:10:31 PM PDT
by
re_nortex
(DP - that's what I like about Texas)
To: Mastador1
And yet it stands for Before The Christian Era? It stands for "Before the Common Era". And what's the "Common Era"?
Don't ask ...
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:11:07 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:11:42 PM PDT
by
Pontiac
(The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The trigger seems to have been the invasion of ancient Egypt in 1177 BCE by marauding peoples known simply as the Sea Peoples, as recorded in the Medinet Habu wall relief at Ramses III' tomb. The relief depicts a sea battle (and also carts full of supplies, women and children, something that always puzzled researchers. Why would the women and children have been at a sea battle, and why were there chariots? Did they bring them on ships as well?)
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:20:07 PM PDT
by
Bratch
To: NorthMountain
Actually I looked it prior to my post and it stated it also stood for Before The Christian Era, what else can you expect from a bunch of atheist nimrods. I fully expect them to somehow work muzzies in. Hey if I misread this then Mea Culpa...........OH!
BCE is the abbreviation for Before the Common/Current/Christian Era (an alternative to Before Christ, abbreviated BC).
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:20:07 PM PDT
by
Mastador1
(I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:21:42 PM PDT
by
RushIsMyTeddyBear
(The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
To: PetroniusMaximus
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:21:52 PM PDT
by
Colorado Doug
(Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
“BCE” and “CE” are just plain stupid.
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:26:48 PM PDT
by
reasonisfaith
("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
To: 2ndDivisionVet
They too did not understand global warming. To many cooking and heating fires.
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:29:23 PM PDT
by
ThomasThomas
("YOUR BADGE! SHOW HIM YOUR BADGE!")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Related
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3038573/Bronze-Age-civilisation-destroyed-perfect-storm-Ancient-Egypt-societies-collapsed-climate-change-war-earthquakes.html
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:30:43 PM PDT
by
Islander7
(There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
To: PapaBear3625
I don’t know about bronze being expensive. If anything, iron and steel are more labor-intensive and technologically difficult to manufacture, so I’d say they were technically more expensive.
I *do* know, however, that once forged, steel can destroy bronze implements and stay unscathed. In other words, it’s much harder and stronger, and thereby gives anyone armed with steel weapons a very substantial advantage.
An army with steel weapons against a bronze-armed foe would be practically like bronze-wielders fighting unarmed men.
To: Mastador1
The comic strip, per FReeper lore, that led to ZOT beiing canonized in the FR lexicon was titled by artist Johnny Hart as
BC, as it rightly should have been, and not the ultra-PC
BCE. There were numerous instances of ZOT featured in the lifetime of the classic comic strip, here's but one of many:
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posted on
05/03/2015 4:32:24 PM PDT
by
re_nortex
(DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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