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1177 BCE, the year a perfect storm destroyed civilization
Haaretz ^ | April 13, 2015 | Julia Fridman

Posted on 05/03/2015 3:35:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sometime after 1200 BCE, civilization collapsed, and a dark age prevailed.

The Late Bronze Age collapse of societies throughout the Levant, the Near East and the Mediterranean some 3,200 years ago has been a mystery. Powerful, advanced civilizations disappeared, seemingly overnight. Now an archaeologist believes he has figured out what lay behind the cataclysm.

The trigger seems to have been the invasion of ancient Egypt in 1177 BCE by marauding peoples known simply as the “Sea Peoples,” as recorded in the Medinet Habu wall relief at Ramses III' tomb. The relief depicts a sea battle (and also carts full of supplies, women and children, something that always puzzled researchers. Why would the women and children have been at a sea battle, and why were there chariots? Did they bring them on ships as well?) The foreigners were depicted wearing distinct head gear....

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TOPICS: History; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: 1177bc; archaeology; bronzeage; bronzeagecollapse; catastrophism; civilization; eberhardzangger; egypt; ericcline; erichcline; godsgravesglyphs; history; levant; medinethabu; peleset; peopleofthesea; pereset; ramses3; ramsesiii; seapeople; seapeoples
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You can read about it here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3038573/Bronze-Age-civilisation-destroyed-perfect-storm-Ancient-Egypt-societies-collapsed-climate-change-war-earthquakes.html


21 posted on 05/03/2015 4:02:25 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwel)
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To: catnipman

Google the name.


22 posted on 05/03/2015 4:04:16 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: proxy_user

It works on Google News, but not plain Google


23 posted on 05/03/2015 4:04:23 PM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The trigger seems to have been the invasion of ancient Egypt in 1177 BCE by marauding peoples known simply as the “Sea Peoples,” ...

Sea peoples?

...Marines?

Must have been one hell of a liberty call.

I can't imagine the First Sergeant's a$$ chewing for blowing up the whole of civilization on a foreign port call.

24 posted on 05/03/2015 4:06:05 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sometime after 1200 BCE, civilization collapsed, and a dark age prevailed.

Around the period 1800 BC to 1200 BC, the technology to make carbon steel was discovered around where Turkey currently is.

Bronze was expensive. Only an aristocratic warrior caste would have bronze swords and armor.

Carbon steel would have made weapons cheap enough to make, that a whole tribe could be armed. They could thus outnumber the Egyptian warriors. That could also explain the drawings of families: the whole tribe would have been in migration. The technological breakthrough of iron would mean that they could overrun older societies.

25 posted on 05/03/2015 4:06:30 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Mastador1

BCE = before common era


26 posted on 05/03/2015 4:06:37 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Tzfat; catnipman
Well, since Jesus was not born at year zero (6 BCE) your point is simple evidence of ignorance.

Oh, sure - that six year difference PROVES that this new date scheme has nothing to do with trying to whitewash Christ from history. LOL
27 posted on 05/03/2015 4:09:13 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: PapaBear3625

IIRC, the Hittites perfected carbon steel for swordmaking & the Egyptians knew their copper swords were no match.


28 posted on 05/03/2015 4:09:31 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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To: Mastador1; wardaddy; Tzfat; proxy_user
Per the leftists ideology, BCE stands for "Before Common Era", thus denying Christ. See this article when the ultra-liberal BBC mandated that the mere mention of Christ be expunged from their reporting. There have been a number of Free Republic threads about the BC vs. BCE issue. FReeper stalwart and unabashed Patriot wardaddy said it best:

It’s total denial BS to rename something which means Before Christ just for secular sake when it doesn’t change the fact of how the epoch change is determined...Christ Birth.

29 posted on 05/03/2015 4:10:31 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Mastador1
And yet it stands for Before The Christian Era?

It stands for "Before the Common Era". And what's the "Common Era"?

Don't ask ...

30 posted on 05/03/2015 4:11:07 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


31 posted on 05/03/2015 4:11:42 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The trigger seems to have been the invasion of ancient Egypt in 1177 BCE by marauding peoples known simply as the “Sea Peoples,” as recorded in the Medinet Habu wall relief at Ramses III' tomb. The relief depicts a sea battle (and also carts full of supplies, women and children, something that always puzzled researchers. Why would the women and children have been at a sea battle, and why were there chariots? Did they bring them on ships as well?)

32 posted on 05/03/2015 4:20:07 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: NorthMountain
Actually I looked it prior to my post and it stated it also stood for Before The Christian Era, what else can you expect from a bunch of atheist nimrods. I fully expect them to somehow work muzzies in. Hey if I misread this then Mea Culpa...........OH!

BCE is the abbreviation for Before the Common/Current/Christian Era (an alternative to Before Christ, abbreviated BC).

33 posted on 05/03/2015 4:20:07 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bkmrk.


34 posted on 05/03/2015 4:21:42 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Here is another source. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3038573/Bronze-Age-civilisation-destroyed-perfect-storm-Ancient-Egypt-societies-collapsed-climate-change-war-earthquakes.html


35 posted on 05/03/2015 4:21:52 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“BCE” and “CE” are just plain stupid.


36 posted on 05/03/2015 4:26:48 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They too did not understand global warming. To many cooking and heating fires.


37 posted on 05/03/2015 4:29:23 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("YOUR BADGE! SHOW HIM YOUR BADGE!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Related
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3038573/Bronze-Age-civilisation-destroyed-perfect-storm-Ancient-Egypt-societies-collapsed-climate-change-war-earthquakes.html


38 posted on 05/03/2015 4:30:43 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: PapaBear3625

I don’t know about bronze being expensive. If anything, iron and steel are more labor-intensive and technologically difficult to manufacture, so I’d say they were technically more expensive.

I *do* know, however, that once forged, steel can destroy bronze implements and stay unscathed. In other words, it’s much harder and stronger, and thereby gives anyone armed with steel weapons a very substantial advantage.

An army with steel weapons against a bronze-armed foe would be practically like bronze-wielders fighting unarmed men.


39 posted on 05/03/2015 4:30:43 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Mastador1
The comic strip, per FReeper lore, that led to ZOT beiing canonized in the FR lexicon was titled by artist Johnny Hart as BC, as it rightly should have been, and not the ultra-PC BCE. There were numerous instances of ZOT featured in the lifetime of the classic comic strip, here's but one of many:


40 posted on 05/03/2015 4:32:24 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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