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Video: Don Lemon claims “most people” can buy automatic weapons in America
Hot Air ^ | August 21, 2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/21/2014 12:18:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Via our colleagues at Twitchy, here’s a demonstration of why the national media is so bad at covering Second Amendment issues. CNN’s Don Lemon is normally not a bad anchor, but he’s clearly out of his depth in this debate — and what’s worse, refuses to recognize that he’s out of his depth even when it’s being made painfully clear to him by Ben Ferguson. Lemon himself all but declares his ignorance of firearms while delivering an indictment of the US based on the supposed free availability of a commodity that’s actually so tightly controlled it’s impossible to acquire without government intervention.

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FERGUSON: The law says that you and I can’t just randomly go out and buy an automatic weapon, so let’s deal with the facts here. A semiautomatic weapon is gun that you and I are allowed to own, and in different places they have different rules. But to imply that anyone can walk out and buy an automatic weapon is just not true, Don.

LEMON: What do you mean anyone can’t wa— Listen, during the theater shooting in Colorado, I was able to go and buy an automatic weapon, and I, you know, have maybe shot a gun, three, four times in my life. I don’t even live in Colorado. I think most people can go out and buy an automatic weapon. I don’t understand your argument there.

Lemon doesn’t understand the argument because Lemon hasn’t bothered to do even basic research into the classes of firearms before lecturing viewers and Ferguson on them. The point, to the extent that Lemon has one here, is that he thinks anyone can walk off the street and get military weapons at any time, which is preposterous — and a strange argument indeed for the story in Ferguson, Missouri, where most of the concern has been about the militarization of police, not the citizenry. The kind of weapons that Americans can buy today are the same kind of weapons they could buy thirty years ago and even sixty years ago. Access to semiautomatic weapons is neither novel or significant.

Ferguson tried to explain that, but Lemon felt the need to urgently communicate his complete ignorance on the topic, claiming that the difference is “semantics” (via The Blaze):

“Let me finish, Ben. But listen. I think you are getting into semantics. Regardless of what you want to call it, an automatic or a semi-automatic weapon.”

“It’s a big deal,” Ferguson interrupted. “It’s the difference between breaking the law and not breaking the law.”

The difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons is hardly semantic. As Ben tried to explain, semi-automatic weapons and revolvers have one important commonality: only one shot gets fired for every trigger pull. In fact, one can shoot a double-action revolver at the same rate as a semi-automatic pistol, although the latter will have magazines with larger capacities. Even that can be mitigated with quick-loaders and some practice for owners of revolvers. Automatic weapons, on the other hand, can fire multiple rounds with just one trigger pull, which makes them so dangerous that it takes a special license from the federal government to own one, and those are rarely granted. They really are much more dangerous and have the potential to cause a lot more damage in a short period of time … which is why the law severely restricts access to them.

The third person in this conversation, Van Jones, knew enough to mostly keep his mouth shut. Lemon should have followed his lead. This problem of ignorance on firearms and weapons laws is not limited to Lemon, though, which is why defending gun rights takes so much effort. Lemon’s irresponsible and uninformed rhetoric does not belong on a news broadcast, but unfortunately all too commonly appears on them, and not just at CNN.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; donlemon; guncontrol; msm
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To: Gen.Blather

Other than the Army and my time as civilian security at an Air Guard base, I’ve had no access to one.


21 posted on 08/21/2014 12:37:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Titus-Maximus

If they can, the MSM will start selling a myth that the hundreds of young black men killed in Chicago each year are murdered by white Chicago police officers.

Sound crazy? You know better.

If they can “set the table,” they’ll try to sell this story at some point.


22 posted on 08/21/2014 12:40:22 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: MrB

He probably thinks that any rifle that isn’t bolt action is “automatic”.


23 posted on 08/21/2014 12:40:31 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, most people can buy an automatic weapon. Just requires more paperwork and an extra $200 tax and some extra time.


24 posted on 08/21/2014 12:40:55 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Little Ray

I think you mean 1986, when New Full Auto Transferable guns stopped being approved by the BATF. They are still made, but can not be sold to non dealers or gov’t agencies.

While there are a few models that can be had for about 5 grand, most cost as much as a small house or more these days.


25 posted on 08/21/2014 12:42:36 PM PDT by wrench (Anr yjhr)
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To: I want the USA back

Anyone with a mindset of defending their rights is a criminal to a liberal.


26 posted on 08/21/2014 12:42:36 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Little Ray
All you have to do find an automatic weapon for sale - there are not a lot of them since they stopped allow the sale of new automatic weapons in 1968.

1986, with the Firearm Owners' Protection Act.

27 posted on 08/21/2014 12:44:19 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I saw this exchange last night. And he's the best CNN's got?

I think even Van Jones knew the clown was wrong.

28 posted on 08/21/2014 12:47:21 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lemon always has his agenda when giving his “version” of facts and “news”.

Truth always proves this goofball wrong.


29 posted on 08/21/2014 12:48:53 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Steely Tom

They only shoot black youts when they don’t have a rope and hood in the trunk. You should hate America.

Pray America wakes up


30 posted on 08/21/2014 12:50:40 PM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you live in a free state, can own a gun, have plenty of money and feel like waiting over a year for the government to bother getting around to putting a $200 stamp on your application you can get a real automatic weapon. But only one that was made before May 19, 1986. There are approximately 175,000 automatic firearms that have been licensed by the BATF.

Oh, and did I mention having lots of money?

subguns.com

31 posted on 08/21/2014 12:53:41 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Pelham
"He probably thinks that any rifle that isn’t bolt action is “automatic”."

Bolt Actions are now called "Sniper Rifles".

32 posted on 08/21/2014 12:56:27 PM PDT by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh yeah?

But he does know the difference between high capacity magazines vs. clips, no?

/cnn viewers, all 10 of them, ‘He’s an expert’


33 posted on 08/21/2014 12:57:11 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s on par with Katie Couric.

During the Washington, D.C. sniping murders. she was interviewing a BATF guy. When they got around to AR-16s, she said, “I understand what makes these guns so dangerous is that they have spirals in the barrel.”

The BATF guy, to his credit, didn’t burst into hysterical laughter, but he gave he one of those “You’ve GOT to be kidding” looks, kept calm and just said “Yes, Ma’am”.

I was ROTFLMAO all over the place. In this day and age, and she didn’t know about rifling? Mother of God. From then on, even though she had nice legs, I looked u[on her as a clueless clown in all things.


34 posted on 08/21/2014 1:00:52 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: 3Fingas

I can just go to youtube & watch any model of automatic weapon I can think of being fired.

Lots of vids too of AR & AK’s with slidefire stocks. Thumb in the belt loop bumpfiring, too. Even a Garand can go rock & roll (not for very long)

In those vids, somebody’s got money to burn on all that ammo.

I prefer to squeeze off off aimed shots from my M1A.


35 posted on 08/21/2014 1:02:13 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: IYAS9YAS; wrench

Okay, 1986.
That still means there is lots of demand chasing only a few, slowly wearing out, automatic weapons, that can only be owned under pretty restrictive conditions.


36 posted on 08/21/2014 1:02:30 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell Don it’s true. That down here in Texas they’re sold at walmart and white people get to go to the front of the check out line. He will likely believe it.


37 posted on 08/21/2014 1:05:22 PM PDT by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: taxcontrol; All

“Actually, most people can buy an automatic weapon. Just requires more paperwork and an extra $200 tax and some extra time.”

Not really, because the 1986 law “froze” the number of legal automatics in the country. There are only a few hundred thousand allowed for “most people” in the whole country. In order for “most people” to buy them, they would have to take turns to own them for a day then sell them to someone else. That way, over the course of a year, “most people” would get a chance...

But the actual processing time is in the months, perhaps one hundred to two hundred days... so it would take over a hundred years for “most people” to own one for a day.


38 posted on 08/21/2014 1:09:01 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Little Ray
That still means there is lots of demand chasing only a few, slowly wearing out, automatic weapons, that can only be owned under pretty restrictive conditions.

Yes. Even the crap guns are worth several thousand. That makes two things Reagan signed as president that I disagree with. This act, and the amnesty. He should have never agreed to it, since the Dems have never lived up to their part of the bargain.

39 posted on 08/21/2014 1:14:58 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Little Ray

And that demand is what really keeps “most people” from being able to buy a machine gun. “Most people” simply do not have that kind of money and can not afford the price.


40 posted on 08/21/2014 1:20:46 PM PDT by wrench
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