Posted on 10/14/2013 9:17:36 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
Patrick J. Buchanan has raised the question asked here fifteen months ago: Is there a peaceful civil secession of Red States underway? Originally raised here in July 2012, we asked if there wasn’t a real possibility of what we described as a “constructive secession” which would accomplish what The Confederacy could not achieve.
As we described the situation those states that have grown tired of the overbearing Barack Obama Administration and see it as no longer intolerable could engage in conduct that would amount to de facto if not a de jure secession from the United States.
Red Staters have long recognized that if we can’t find a way to stop Obama’s shredding of our Constitution by his arrogant abuse of Executive Orders we are certainly headed for a...
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How about a Gov who just refused to allow the closure of coal fired power plants in his state? The EPA is an unelected govt agency running roughshod. If allowed to continue you will see major power outages in the near future. All part of the plan.
Sadly, for I have lived during this nation’s greatness, now being toppled by a bunch of morons and idolatoers of money, I agree.
Along with the idea of secession, to preserve what might be left to save, the other ugly word must be contemplated, paryed, meditated about ... eradication. As unto the Cannanites, the Carthaginians.
I look forward to moving from my rapidly bluing “People’s State” to one of the new states. Keep the news coming.
I would just as soon that Texas become it’s own country again—and we could oust all the illegals—and yankees-—and Californians
(Just kidding about you yankees who are here..........)
Judge Andrew Napolitano: Revolution is Duty of the People.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5KJ2aD8F0
It would be an interesting exercise. Of course it would work better with 30 or 40 states cooperating with each other and ignoring the feds. Strength in numbers.
The left hates the idea of secession of those they seek to subjugate. It really gets them in a twist.
I was thinking yesterday that the Rapture is equally offensive to them,
because, just like secession, but on the Ultimate Grand Scale, the Rapture leaves them to the hell they’ve created, and those they wanted to punish with this hell will have escaped.
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Recently I switched from a Insurance company located in the NorthEast to USAA, which is located in the south. It cost me nothing, but I sleep better knowing my hard earned money is going to support some 'Blue Stater' who is voting for candidates that seek only to oppress us.
Just one of many ideas I'm working on - this needs to be a regional movement .
Secession?
Won’t happen.
Libs/Leftists are taking the Red States, one state at a time. Some call it Kalifornication and it is happening in several Western states.
Most Pubbies are not going to jump on the secession bandwagon because they are too happy with the status quo and their go-along-to-get-along strategy.
Some type of ‘virtual secession’ might work wherein several states agree that they will no longer comply with onerous federal regulations, etc. Just ignore them. But the trick is to have states join in blocks to solidify their position and ability to resist.
To a certain extent, this type of thing is already happening on the liberal side with the so-called sanctuary cities. Are they not ignoring federal immigration laws? They don’t comply, they just do what they want. Conservative states could do likewise.
The red states will never be allowed to leave peacefully. If it comes to that they should be ready for a federal invasion.
Seems to me, a peaceful, lawful step towards an amicable divorce would be something like.....having local tea party groups prove up their membership, then allowing them based upon their membership to appoint a certain number of “delegates” to a convention.
Probably a convention in each state, to keep travel somewhat limited.
Each state convention would then pass a resolution by those delegates stating something like, “the union is not working, and we want to see immediate discussions between states that want to go and the federal government commence on how to accomplish a peaceful, orderly transition”.
(Of course those discussions won’t happen...but seems to me that that needs to be the first step).
That was I think generally how the colonies started movement away from the king. They tried, and tried for a reasonable epriod of time. Eventually, b/c the king was non-responsive, they set forth a long list of grievances and declared independence, in the second continental congress.
But the point is, there was already a mechanism in place which the residents of the colonies recognized and respected which gave the delegations to the continental congress some legitimacy.
Yes, we would need to spend some money on conducting elections, ballot security and so on, as well as renting of convention facilities, etc. But these challenges are overcome.
That is how I see this proceeding.
But I would like to hear some responses (not snarky ones, but ones oriented towards a plan, an even better plan....and one that is workable).
I meant to say that each state convention would also elect a smaller number of delegates to a national convention.
The national convention would write up the resolution to be submitted to the King.
I heard/saw a TV ad this morning put out by our Secretary of State. It said voters have to show a picture ID to vote, then it described where voters could get a free ID picture card if they don't have one.
Freaking Eric Holder took us to court to stop our ID picture requirement, and Attorney General Abbott won that for us. Holder has said he will try again to stop us. He hates Attorney General Abbott and Texas in general.
This is what I mean by saying we are already seceding. Abbott said he would have any federal officer arrested who took one step into our state to go into our polling places. He said the same thing about our defense weapons. Said he would have any federal officer arrested who tried to remove handguns/rifles from our citizens.
Texas refused to join the new Medicaid part of Husseincare.
We have seceded every time a new POS rule/law tries to take away our state sovereignty.
This progression of events is as old has humanity and is immutable.
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