Posted on 12/29/2011 1:01:09 PM PST by daletoons
Atheist militant Richard Dawkins has produced a children's book entitled "The Magic of Reality" and in doing so has joined the Millstone Swim and Dive Club. Spreading his venom for God to kids under the guise of Scientism is about as putrid as it gets. Children using simple God-given logic conclude the existence of a creator. It requires an abandonment of logic to attain self omniscience and declare there is no God. The materialist's faith in the escape hatch of "there just wasn't enough evidence for me" won't wash on judgement day. Here's a book idea: The ghost of Christopher Hitchens, Jacob Marley style, appears to Richard Dawkins and sets him straight. Dickey would probably make a hash of it, too bad Hitchens isn't still around to write it.
Love it.....
Thanks for the work.
I KNEW there was no reason to believe the inflated figure of 350,000.
Looks like the troll got caught lying big time.
a) going to the link
b) finding original source documents
Typically people sound one another out, looking for easily exploited chinks in the armour (logical flaws, "previously solved problems" or statements which allow the judger to dismiss the other as some particular species of crank from within the judger's worldview); failing this, invariably the dispute goes to larger-scale definitions or claimed consequences of (usually still-unstated) "axioms" of each side; and thence to the "real" base issues. Depending on how things are done, people either "agree to disagree" or wander off, shaking their head disrespectfully, or revert to Calvin and Hobbes mode:
Cheers!
"Making" you go through it piece by piece?? How would I do that? No, that's your choice.
It might be edifying for interested parties reading this, to see your "point by point" refutations, however, since some don't think it's "silly" at all. Here's your opportunity to show us what you "know". (The "iron sharpens iron", thingy).
Yes, you.
I also think you sound like this: Uck, uck, uck, uck. Ba goawk!
:-)
Cheers!
That’s why it’s a logical fallacy.
It’s always ‘true’...
Only if you believe that credulity is the superior position.
FR, where Calvin is a mod.......
For me, there is no point in pondering such things anyway. It's a frivolous pastime, as are most forays into "spiritual" matters. Every bit as silly to me as druids pounding drums in the forest (or whatever it is that they do.)
I have no questions about life itself. Everything makes perfect sense to me just as it is. The questions that trouble people have very obvious answers, they just are not the answers people WANT. "Why do good people die of cancer?" For instance. Well, because cancer has nothing to do with your personality. "Why did that little boy have to die?" Well, he was in the street and a car came, and that's what happens. If you stop trying to posit a benevolent God, all your questions disappear.
About 15 years ago, I gave that a try: imagine what you think the world would be like with no gods, no devils, just the world spinning in black space, populated by creatures all trying to survive. Then I looked around and what I saw fit that perfectly.
So this notion that there are questions to be asked is purely the construct of a mind in revolt against reality. I do really think people would be much better off examining their lives for admittedly prosaic (but adult) issues like: how can I do my job better? Let's go over the budget again. Maybe I should clean my closet before I go shopping for something new.
Things like this are actually generally enough to fill a life if you're determined to live it as best you can. There are occasional moments of boredom, but we all have that. But escaping into fantasy lands is ultimately counter-productive, and a waste of time and energy.
This sounds like the typical theist's semantic trick of trying to posit non-belief as a belief. Sort of like those chicks who chirp "Even not having an agenda is a kind of agenda." But being able to phrase it in such a way as to try and make it look like a belief system doesn't actually make it so.
Others think they are quite the wag, and project a bright-eyed sort of naughty-boy persona that is not only creepy in men after a certain age, but is really a cover-up for a much more aggressive and angry face. These types will try very hard to needle you with insults. If you insult back, they run to the Mod. I'm sure you can see who I mean.
(”>Genesis was written for a primitive people. It is not a metaphor. It is an attempt to accurately explain an event to people who have no vocabulary for it. “Dust” is a good choice of words, for something that we would call elements and atoms, and still not be metaphorical about it.
That just means it has no excuse for being blatantly wrong. Once more, there are quite a few inaccuracies and mistakes even assuming that it’s a necessarily simple tale for a primitive people.”)
If I may interject....
The term “Adam” has two meanings...”one who blushes” and “a deeper root meaning “red mud or red dust man”. That is important because iron oxide is the primary pigment in red dust....why is that important you might ask? What is the primary active element that allows human hemaglobin to function as it does?
The ancients knew God had made Man out of red dust but they couldn’t have known what modern science tells us; that the iron in that red pigmented dust was used in the formation of our blood, liver and blood forming systems!
And skeptics say there is no science to be found in the book of Genesis...the ancient prophets titter at us modern fools, chiding us even from 4000 years ago by stating...”The blood is the life of a man!”
Have you ever studied cosmology?
Because your statement that 'let it be the universe' runs counter to current scientific thinking.
You have just revealed that you are not willing to find the truth, but merely to cherry pick from whatever source as suits your comfort.
(In other words, don't look down your nose while claiming to be the standard bearer for wearing the mantle of science and reason, while at the same time feeling free to ignore the claims made by science when it suits your convenience.)
I have no questions about life itself. Everything makes perfect sense to me just as it is. The questions that trouble people have very obvious answers, they just are not the answers people WANT. "Why do good people die of cancer?" For instance. Well, because cancer has nothing to do with your personality. "Why did that little boy have to die?" Well, he was in the street and a car came, and that's what happens. If you stop trying to posit a benevolent God, all your questions disappear.
No, you've just buried the questions, or shifted them to another form; and agreed to just "take for granted" other matters which have troubled minds far greater than yours for millenia.
But those questions would probably make as much sense to you as the Navier-Stokes equations would make to my cat, so I won't befuddle your pretty little mind with it. Enjoy cleaning out your closets before you go shopping.
Oh, and don't forget to pick up your Ron Paul bumper sticker.
Cheers!
You're in over your head, dear.
The belief system of the atheist is hidden amongst the axioms which he declares "self-evident" but for which he cannot muster the ontological proof he demands from his opponents.
Cheers!
I mean... if it makes you happy, I guess, go for it. But to insist that your fantasies must be everyone's fantasies... that's where you mess up. Not all of us want that. Being an atheist doesn't make me a communist, or a satanist, or a socialist, or anything else. And trying to construct a persona and force it on me so I can be integrated into your starry inner world, that's what I object to. Well, that and the ever-simmering-under-the-surface threats of Hell. That constant childhood taunt of "you're gonna get it!" ... that's irritating... as I suspect it's meant to be.
“About 15 years ago, I gave that a try: imagine what you think the world would be like with no gods, no devils, just the world spinning in black space, populated by creatures all trying to survive. Then I looked around and what I saw fit that perfectly.”
A personal question - (No problem if you don’t answer as it is personal but I’m curious):
Do you have children?
Muridae:
This account has been banned or suspended.
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FOFLOL!!!
Too true.
The mod just might enjoy the laugh today......
AM, ping to post 262......
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