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We knew this would be coming. But they won`t go after mosques for teaching the same thing because that would be racist, islamophobic, and interfering in religious beliefs.
1 posted on 06/26/2011 8:59:29 AM PDT by chessplayer
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Some devout Moslem would also sacrifice himself for the cause ~ they do that stuff.


2 posted on 06/26/2011 9:02:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Pope Leo XIII saw the danger of relying on the state to define and protect marriage 130 years ago.

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4 posted on 06/26/2011 9:10:31 AM PDT by Ransomed
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Until Cumuo is excommunicated and denied communion, it is all just talk. The Catholic churches talks the talk but consistently fails to walk the walk. My wife and daughter are Catholic. I told my wife until I see the church do more than talk and whine I will not be a Catholic. The church is missing a great opportunity to bring conservative Christians into it’s fold. If they wring their hands and dithers Islam will rise.


5 posted on 06/26/2011 9:23:06 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (Social engineers build bad bridges.)
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3 words for the pro gay marriage crowd when it comes to targeting the Catholic church.

“Bring It Bitches”

You may not be fully defeated here, but you will enjoy your eternal ‘reward’ in the next life.

Its Friday but Sunday is coming....


6 posted on 06/26/2011 9:24:41 AM PDT by RadioCirca1970 (Victory or Death in the War on Terror)
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Without doubt. Look for their tax-exempt status to be challenged.


7 posted on 06/26/2011 9:24:56 AM PDT by Nickname
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How about the churches -- Catholic and Protestant---

Calling out the lawmakers who voted this monstrosity into law...
---Call them by name -- proclaim and publish!!
...And excuse them from the fellowship of the saints, and The Lord's Table...

And the Archbishop of Albany EXCOMMUNICATING the sitting governor who promoted this enabling of sin, and signed his own name to the document....

The lawmakers, governor, social engineers an militant activists have made their positions clear without apology to anyone --

The community of Judeo-Christian faith should do the same---

For once...

Draw the line between light and darkness...---

Sound the call to everyone who gladly chooses to live in the light....

And issue the dire prophetic warning to everyone who gladly chooses to remain in the dark night of their grotesque sins.

9 posted on 06/26/2011 9:42:15 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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Kudos to the honest and astute Freeper who pointed out the other day that Ayatollah Khomeni probably had it right when he referred to the United States as "the Great Satan."

As astonishing as this may sound, I can see the day coming when Christians in America will beg radical Muslims to come here and save us from the radical, Satanic secularism that we have brought upon ourselves.

The Almighty God sure has a sense of humor, doesn't He?

10 posted on 06/26/2011 9:44:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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The bishops need to excommunicate Cuomo and every so-called Catholic legislator who voted for this bill. Indeed, they should have maken it clear that they would do so BEFORE the vote was taken.


11 posted on 06/26/2011 9:51:09 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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It's safe to go after Christians.

It's not safe to go after Moslems.

So it's brave to go after Christians, but bigoted to go after Moslems.

12 posted on 06/26/2011 9:55:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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The first lawsuit will be served on July 26th in the afternoon. On the morning of July 26 the day after the law takes effect, two gays will go to Archbishop Dolan’s office demanding to be married. He will turn them down. In the after the papers will be served. Anyone who says”Oh but the law protects the Catholic Church and others...” is a fool.
14 posted on 06/26/2011 10:46:57 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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16 posted on 06/26/2011 11:36:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Of course it will happen.

When is the church going to start really dealing with these Catholic politicians like Cuomo?

The Church’s stand in this area is admirable, but somehow it’s not filtering down the ranks, and until the Catholic church actually takes some proactive action, it seems that it will not be taken seriously by those liberal Catholic politicians.


17 posted on 06/26/2011 11:45:13 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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The real reason for not going after the mosques is divide and conquer. Think about it, if your opposition has a slight majority, no better way exists than to ensure the components of your opposition are against each other. Going after mosques would have two effects:

1) Generate sympathy and degrees of solidarity between the Muslims and the Christians, as they now have a common misfortune of some #%^&$@*%* desecrating whatever it is they feel is sacred. That’s the moderate side.

2) Simply provoke the radical elements, and bring their wrath around to a higher swing, simply because some of the allegations from the Imams are actually arguably true, and appear less like propaganda in their nature.


22 posted on 06/26/2011 12:26:38 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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23 posted on 06/26/2011 1:05:43 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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I don’t think this will pass. The separation of church and state doesn’t allow for the state to control the churches.


27 posted on 06/26/2011 3:35:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Too many people are ignorant of the fact that so-called gay “marriage” isn’t about giving rights to perverts; it’s an assault on religious belief and practice. Once the majority figures that out, there will be hell to pay.


29 posted on 06/26/2011 3:42:17 PM PDT by Antoninus (What part of "I won't vote for Romney under any circumstances" don't you understand?)
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(CNSNews.com) - As New York enacted a law late Friday that legalizes same-sex marriage in the state, the Roman Catholic bishops of New York released a statement saying they now expect efforts to enact laws that go after churches that insist on teaching the "timeless truths" about marriage and family.

"We strongly uphold the Catholic Church's clear teaching that we always treat our homosexual brothers and sisters with respect, dignity and love," the bishops said.

"But we just as strongly affirm that marriage is the joining of one man and one woman in a lifelong, loving union that is open to children, ordered for the good of those children and the spouses themselves," the bishops said. "This definition cannot change, though we realize that our beliefs about the nature of marriage will continue to be ridiculed, and that some will even now attempt to enact government sanctions against churches and religious organizations that preach these timeless truths."

The statement was signed by the bishops of all eight Roman Catholic diocese in the state of New York, led by Archbishop Timothy Dolan of the Manhattan-based Archdiocese of New York. The other bishops signing the statement included Bishop Howard Hubbard of the Albany Diocese, Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of the Brooklyn Diocese, Bishop Edward Kmiec of the Buffalo Diocese, Bishop Terry LaValley of the Ogdensburg Diocese, Bishop Matthew H. Clark of the Rochester Diocese, Bishop William Murphy of the Rockville Centre Diocese, and Bishop Robert Cunningham of the Syracuse Diocese.

The New York State Senate passed the same-sex marriage bill late Friday and Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Catholic, signed the bill into law at 11:55 Friday night. The state assembly has passed the bill the week before. The law will go into effect in 30 days.

The law was enacted just in time for New York City's annual "gay pride" parade, which takes place on Sunday. The parade runs along Fifth Avenue, passing directly in front of Saint Patrick's Cathedral, the seat of the Catholic Archdiocese of New York.

"The passage by the legislature of a bill to alter radically and forever humanity's historic understanding of marriage leaves us deeply disappointed and troubled," the New York bishops said in their statement.

"We worry that both marriage and the family will be undermined by this tragic presumption of government in passing this legislation that attempts to redefine these cornerstones of civilization," they said.

"Our society must regain what it appears to have lost--a true understanding of the meaning and the place of marriage, as revealed by God, grounded in nature, and respected by America's foundational principles," said the bishops.

The Declaration of Independence justified the American colonies' break from Great Britain based on "the Laws of Nature and Nature's God" and famously stated that all men "are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights."

New York State Sen. Ruben Diaz was the only state senator to speak out against the same-sex marriage bill on the Senate floor yesterday. "God, not Albany, has settled the definition of marriage a long time ago," Diaz said.

Diaz is a minister in the Church of God.


Full text of the bill's amendment to protect religious liberty: A8520-2011: Relates to the ability to marry; amends a chapter of the laws of 2011, as proposed in legislative bill number A. 8354, in relation to the statutory construction of such chapter


Despite the amendment, there are still many questions raised at the parish level. For example, we have several gay individuals living in 'committed' relationships. Assuming, in the case of the two women, they decide to marry (outside the church), are we obliged to alter our mailing list to reflect their 'married' status and direct mailings to "Mrs. so and so" and include her 'spouse', as we would do for traditionally married couples, in special invites?

And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Among the parishioners, are immigrants whose English is good but limited. My personal concern goes to those whose children are enrolled in public schools. Having followed the evolution of events in MA, do we offer them guidance or advice regarding what to expect may be introduced into the PS curriculum?

It is so insidious!

32 posted on 06/26/2011 4:32:13 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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If not mistaken, such laws are in place but tacitly ignored because NYC relies so heavily on Catholic Charities to make this town human. Viz "His Eminence and Hizzoner."

Which reminds me: I can't wait until Mayor Koch weighs in.

34 posted on 06/26/2011 4:44:15 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters)
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And one more for the road...


37 posted on 06/26/2011 5:17:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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If man can give religious exemptions he can also take them away. I expect attacks on the exemptions soon.

38 posted on 06/26/2011 5:33:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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