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Palin is Running, and She’ll Get Creamed
The Constitution Club ^ | 02-12-11 | Dave the Sage

Posted on 02/12/2011 7:47:16 PM PST by TheConservativeCitizen

It does appear that former governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah “you betcha” Palin will be throwing her beauty pageant sash into the presidential ring. She has added veteran Republican strategist Michael Glassner to serve as chief-of-staff for her political action committee, Sarah PAC, and steer her political operation. For the political insiders this is the strongest indication yet that Sarah Palin is seriously laying the groundwork for a serious bid for the white house. Unfortunately, she is probably the most disastrous of the current crop of possible GOP hopefuls and in my humble opinion would stand absolutely no chance in the general election. I will even venture to say that I don’t think she’ll make it out of the primaries. She is mistaking the general support the Right gives her as a person of character and cheerleader Tea Party as political support for a presidential bid. I submit to you the two are not the same and she will find this out the hard way. And if by some miracle she were to get the nod to lead the Republican party into the next general election we will witness a most embarrassing of electoral trouncings since Mondale got crushed by Reagan.

I defend Palin vigorously from the hatred and smears from the Left and admire her commitment to what is right and true. For the most part I share her politics, values, and ideology. And I think she makes a great fundraiser and cheerleader for the Right in general and the Tea Party in particular. But she had her chance for glory and success on the national stage and frankly blew it.

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To: TheConservativeCitizen

I am not going to waste my time talking to you because you are a idiot.

If Palin runs she will win. She is the only one who can win in 2012


181 posted on 02/12/2011 10:20:06 PM PST by angelocracy
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To: freedomwarrior998

Thank you so much for this. You have no idea how happy you have made me.

Palin with only a 1 point lead in Texas? Your polling data is BS. And anyone who thinks this junk is even close to being right is not very smart.


182 posted on 02/12/2011 10:26:56 PM PST by angelocracy
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To: bcr100

“There is no way Palin would win. The liberal media has donme its dirty work on her and too many people in this country are too lazy to think for themselves and find out the truth.”

Well said. And as Rysh mentioned on this topic, you can’t be elected president when half the country is against you.

But I do hope she keeps launching broadsides against Obama. They are so right on.


183 posted on 02/12/2011 10:29:08 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: bcr100

“There is no way Palin would win. The liberal media has donme its dirty work on her and too many people in this country are too lazy to think for themselves and find out the truth.”

Well said. And as Rush mentioned on this topic, you can’t be elected president when half the country is against you.

But I do hope she keeps launching broadsides against Obama. They are so right on.


184 posted on 02/12/2011 10:29:20 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: freedomwarrior998; Al B.

“To head off any nonsense, Yes, the media hated Reagan too, and did everything that they could to smear him... but Reagan couldn’t be successfully labeled by the media because of his tremendous skill, intellect, and oratory ability. He had a unique ability to bypass the media and go right to the people. Like it or not, Palin is not Reagan in this regard. Pretending that she is won’t change that fact.”

Noone is waiting with baited breath for your wisdom about Reagan. the fact of the matter is, nad you would know this if you had either lived through, and worked in, the two Reagan campaigns, as many of us did, or if you took the trouble to educate yourself by reading Craig Shirley’s excellent books on them. Reagan’s ability to “go right to the people” wasn’t available to him until AFTER he became President. He was trailing Jimmy Carter or no better than even with him in every poll until the debate. And, As Shirley points out in his excellent book on the 1980 campaign, Rendezvous with Destiny, at page 253, that Reagan made so many errors in mispeaking and in factual mistakes that it became “the gaffe issue.” Both of his frend Ed Meese and Paul Laxalt recognized it as a problem and are quoted in the book, if you care to take a look. As Shirley notes, “The ‘gaffe issue’ became an out of control brushfire. Long reports in the New York Times, , Washington Post, Time and other media outlets detailed Reagan’s problem with misstatements.”

Unlike Palin, Reagan was at the mercy of the MSM , which held a monopoly on the dissemination of news. There was no internet, no talk radio, no social media. So Palin has many institutional advantages that Reagan lacked. and she does not have a propensity to make gaffes.

No one is going to convince you, and I am not even trying. You have convinced yourself, and you have recourse to Democrat sponsored PPP push polls, on the one hand, while you reverence Reagan on the other. We can only hope that when your head stops spinning, it is to the front.

We are going to have a primary election. Then we are going to have a general election. We will see, beginning with the primary election who is right.


185 posted on 02/12/2011 10:29:30 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: familyop

[How’d she do in the CPAC straw poll?]

She got crushed by Ron Paul, as did everyone else. That obviously means Ron Paul is the frontrunner!

Or maybe not.


186 posted on 02/12/2011 10:45:02 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

This is not good from a very conservative blogger. From Dave the Sage, a very high standard has been set for POTUS. Instead of a glass ceiling for a woman, it is an unattainable standard. He reflects the worry about the prospect of our failure in unseating the Obama Regime.


187 posted on 02/12/2011 10:46:11 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
And let’s see, what was the ‘media’ take on Ronald Reagan? Oh yeah, aging, washed up B-actor.

They kept showing pics of Reagan from Bedtime for Bonzo back then.

188 posted on 02/12/2011 10:57:24 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: freedomwarrior998

Oh come on. Your map has Palin behind in the Carolinas and Florida. Who believes that?


189 posted on 02/12/2011 10:59:25 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: DaxtonBrown

“Oh come on. Your map has Palin behind in the Carolinas and Florida. Who believes that?”

*******

People who mainline the PPP koolaid believe it. No one in their right mind believes it, but it fits a particular delusion popularly known as PDS.


190 posted on 02/12/2011 11:02:37 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: autumnraine

“Great cheerleader?” Oh no, I don’t suppose there’d be anything sexist in that place-putting assessment of Gov. Palin...


191 posted on 02/12/2011 11:02:49 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: freedomwarrior998

[What makes you think Palin is a great debater? Why is she better than Herman Cain?]

Last I checked, she would be running against ‘mumbles’ Obama in the general, not Herman Cain. Herman may be a decent conservative, but so am I, where is his traction supposed to come from? Talk about unelectable.


192 posted on 02/12/2011 11:05:08 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: freedomwarrior998
Rasmussen has Palin down by 11 points from 49 to 38, and that was probably due to the attempt by the Democrats and Media to associate her with the Arizona shootings. It's not unusual for people's emotions to take sway of their reason when a tragedy occurs. It's why they did it in the first place, because they knew it would be effective, but it's only effective for a short time, and by the time the campaigns hit full speed, this will all but be forgotten about...seen by the nonsense that it is and discarded by reasonable people.

here is the real lesson to the poll:

"...much can change in the next year-and-a-half."

"It’s...worth noting that a great deal of caution must be taken in terms of interpreting individual results. It is far from clear which candidates will seek the Republican nomination and who ultimately will be nominated. At this point in 2008, everybody assumed the Democratic nominee would be Hillary Clinton, and Rudy Giuliani was leading the Republican field. One candidate on our list, Mike Pence, has already dropped out of the race. Other names will be tested in the coming weeks."

"In 2004, the last election with a presidential incumbent, Howard Dean was an early front-runner. Early polling also showed him as the strongest general election contender against President Bush. However, as soon as John Kerry became the front-runner, his numbers jumped to where Dean’s had been and Dean’s polling slipped. It’s interesting to note that Kerry trailed Bush by three points on the night he became the front-runner, and he ended up losing the election by three percentage points. In 2008, Rasmussen tracking polls showed Obama leading McCain consistently by five or six points for the first month after Hillary Clinton bowed out of the race. Obama ended up winning by seven."

The lesson here is that the farther you are from election day, the less of indicator these polls become. Considering that the campaigns haven't even started yet, it doesn't make much sense to use these polls as an accurate predictor.

I will say this though. When the debates start, and the American public gets to see Sarah without the media whitewash, things are going to change in her favor, because she's going to dominate the debates.

Give her a chance to stand or fall on her own, and let the cards fall where they may.

193 posted on 02/12/2011 11:09:45 PM PST by csense
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
The reality that Palin is poor presidential material does not make one less of a conservative.

Sadly, that is what many here believe.

194 posted on 02/12/2011 11:12:44 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy

Just wait... in a year a folding chair could beat Obama.


195 posted on 02/12/2011 11:15:52 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: angelocracy; TheConservativeCitizen
It’s not a reality, it is your very wrong opinion

Bingo!

ANd I would add to that, a very uninformed opinion!
196 posted on 02/12/2011 11:32:31 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: bcr100
The liberal media has donme its dirty work on her and too many people in this country are too lazy to think for themselves and find out the truth.

Yeah, just like they did on the Tea Party.

Remind me again, *how* many seats did we pick up in the House?

Nice try, though.

Cheers!

197 posted on 02/12/2011 11:32:46 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Btt


198 posted on 02/12/2011 11:42:08 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Lazlo in PA; RockinRight; TheConservativeCitizen; SunkenCiv
Try this site and click on the second video from the left next to "Democrats" (if you mouse over it, it says "Streetgov").

Vote Carter, the nuanced, worldly-wise, moral candidate, not the right-wing nutcase who would get us all killed.

Same lies every time.

Cheers!

199 posted on 02/12/2011 11:44:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
It won't be.

Carter brought us Reagan; Obama will bring us Palin.

Here's the key: the GOP membership has seen through the kabuki theatre and wants non-hyphenated conservatives (not "fiscal-conservatives," "neo-conservatives", or "compassionate-conservatives").

Sarah has promised to give us common sense conservatives, a sharp rebuke to the overly-credentialed class infesting the White House right now.

Lincoln didn't attend any Ivy League schools; nor yet again Truman; nor did Reagan.

In keeping with the adage that anyone can become President, and William F. Buckley's line that he'd rather be represented by the first 500-odd names in the Boston telephone book than by the Harvard faculty.

Cheers!

200 posted on 02/12/2011 11:48:59 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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