Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[Seizethecarp]

“WHEN THE KENYAN RENEWED HIS PASSPORT IN 1964, the birth year changes to 1936 and he’s grown an inch taller. He’s now an ECONOMIST but he still has no wife nor children.”

The passport you posted is a from independent Kenya, not UK Kenya Colony and Protectorate so it was later than April 1964.

The UK Kenya Colony passport that Lucas Smith posted shows a renewal in April 1964 good through April 1969, and the INS FOIA documents make note of the renewal of that passport through 1969.

My guess would be that the independent Kenya passport you posted was an April 1969 renewal at the earliest.

BTW, on the age 25 vs. age 27 issue in 1961, Barry received a lot of publicity in Kenya in 2004 when he was elected senator and over the next four years and I expect that there might be an article about his Kenyan father with his birth date or age in the Kenyan press.

[bd476]

You’re welcome, Alamo-Girl. And thank you for thanking me! :)

[no-to-illegals]

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[Seizethecarp]

“BUT as both the ‘Blaine document’ and the LFBC recently presented, have the AGE OF THE FATHER AS 25 IN 1961, would the obvious question to ask not be...HOW DID THE FORGER OF THE BLAINE DOCUMENT CHOOSE THE AGE PLACED ON THAT DOCUMENT.”

Let’s remember that the likely incorrect birth year of 1936 is on Sr.’s grave marker, so that date of birth has been associated with him for at least as long as that stone was there. Isn’t the marker pictured in “Dreams”? The Blaine document was likely forged in 2009 and the pdf was likely forged in 2011.

[Alamo-Girl]

:)

[Fred Nerks]

ITEM ONE

Both Scheinman’s and Mboya’s papers are housed in the Hoover Institution Archives. In processing those papers, we ran across thank-you letters from the senior Obama to Mboya. Here are several excerpts from one of those letters:

Barack Obama Sr. to Tom Mboya, May 29, 1962, Tom Mboya Papers, Box 41, Hoover Institution Archives.

Hoover Archivists' Musings Blog of the Hoover Institution Library and Archives Tuesday, February 9, 2010 ============================================================ ITEM TWO

IF ANYONE CAN FIND THE LETTER THE KENYAN SUPPOSEDLY WROTE TO MBOYA (Item Two)THAT ISN'T SPLIT INTO TWO SECTIONS, WOULD THEY PLEASE POST IT HERE?

[Jedidah]

How can you be “totally committed” to a theory with absolutely no hard evidence to support it?
The way I see it, the only way for the truth to eventually come out is through open minds, a continuing persistent search for solid evidence, and a united effort.
And we’re not there yet.

[Fred Nerks]

...My guess would be that the independent Kenya passport you posted was an April 1969 renewal at the earliest.

And I cannot see what any of that has to do with him changing his birth year from the orginal passport to the renewal. The Kenya Press isn't going to be any wiser either, are they? They will have seen the same documents we have.

Frankly, I don't personally care what age he said he was, I just want to know WHEN he decided it was to his benefit to change his birth year, but there's no evident pattern.

He wasn't selected to be part of the airlift because he had been arrested albeit for political reasons, he was noted by the colonial administration as presenting a potential problem, he would have found it difficult to find a sponsor, so there's something odd behind his need to change his year of birth.

And the fact he had a brother two years older with whom he attended school at Maseno, makes an interesting possibilty, which brother actually came to Hawaii? The one who was born in 1934, named Yusuf, or the one born in 1936, named Barack?

Don't answer that, you'll do yourself an injury.

[Spander Sanders]

Correspondence? In Kenya? If they had no higher education after high school, who was going to admininster correspondence courses? He apparently worked as a clerk for Elizabeth Mooney and the Laubach Literacy Society. He would have needed to find a private, full time tutor. Frankly, I have no idea how he achieved the credentials he claimed to have when he was interviewed in Hawaii. Obama Sr.- March 1959 - Correspondence Course at Nairobi Royal Technical College (which is now Nairobi University).

[Fred Nerks]

Nice one, now give us the link to where you got that from. We are here to share, and broaden our knowledge.

[Seizethecarp]

“And the fact he had a brother two years older with whom he attended school at Maseno, makes an interesting possibilty, which brother actually came to Hawaii? The one who was born in 1934, named Yusuf, or the one born in 1936, named Barack?”

Link please.

Once again, as with Mary Toutonghi, you appear to be relying on the dubious 50-year-old memory of an elderly Maseno school administrator as recounted to a reporter (always a sketchy proposition, in my experience) and NOT on any source documents.

Previously you have touted as a “fact” that David Obama never existed (based on no documentation and an incoherent narrative) and now you appear to have created a new older brother, Yusuf, for BHO Sr. born in 1934 that never existed from any documentation that I have seen.

Here is the Wiki family tree which has sources noted for all claims:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obama

BHO Sr.’s mom, Akuma was born in 1918 and had only three children with the first, a daughter, being born in 1933. Then came BHO Sr. in 1934 followed by a second daughter after which Akuma decamped. There was no other son on record.

The next son of Onyango on record was Omar Obama was born to Sarah, Onyango’s third wife in 1944. He may have attended Maseno before going on to being an illegal in MA and been the brother of BHO Sr. that the Maseno administrator remembered vaguely.

Yusuf Obama is Sarah’s son born in the early 1950’s, not Akumu’s son born in the 1930s, according to Wiki.

[Fred Nerks]

A Centre of Excellence

The University of Nairobi dates back to 1956, with the establishment of the Royal Technical College, which admitted its first students for technical courses in April of the same year. At Kenya’s Independence in 1963, the idea of an inter-territorial university saw the creation of the University of East Africa and the Royal Technical College became a constituent College of the University. In 1970, through respective Acts of Parliament, the three East African states created a University each. Thus, the University of Nairobi was born.

http://www.proudlyafrican.info/Kenya/The-University-of-Nairobi-Top-Education-Institution.aspx#

And thus he arrived in Hawaii in August 1959, claiming a Business Administrarion major. Is that what you are trying to tell us?

[WildHighlander57]

You’re right African American institute is on the INA docs.

[Fred Nerks]

You’re so gullible it’s almost pathetic. The teacher at Maseno was reading from the index records of students. I can’t post the article, it’s been removed from the web. I have it on my harddrive, but with your attitude, you can hang by your nails or your teeth and wait till I’m in the mood to convert it.
And stop making people like the teacher and Mary the baby sitter out to be old doddering fools who can’t remember. JUST HOW OLD ARE YOU? I BET YOU’RE NO CHICKEN YOURSELF.

Wiki? Don’t make me laugh. They had a Yusuf born circa 1950’s and a Yusuf born in the 30’s and when they realized they had one Yusuf too many, they wiped one. I posted about that so many years ago it’s become a joke. BUSTARDS, THEY KILLED KENNY!

Your ego will be your ruin.

[Fred Nerks]

But you didn’t answer the question; can you find the African American Students Foundation anywhere on the documents?

That’s the AASF.

To which Tom Mboya contributed the names of the SELECTED AND VETTED STUDENTS.

[Fred Nerks]

Here's snippet I'll post out of respect for freepers who might be following this thread. For you, I don't have any.

[WildHighlander57]

No, the AASF isn’t in there

[Fred Nerks]

“Barack,” Roy said happily, “these are our uncles. This is Yusuf,” he said, pointing to the slightly built man with a mustache. “And this,” he said, pointing to the larger, clean-shaven man, “this is our father’s youngest brother, Sayid.”

UNCLE. SAME GENERATION AS BARACK. YUSUF. WENT TO SCHOOL AS JOSEPH. OLDER BROTHER.

Can't take that family tree as gospel, but Yusuf appears to be in the right place for his generation. And sorry, I can't give you the link to the website I took the quote from, between yesterday and today, that site HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN.

that's where it was...we are being carefully followed, obviously.

[Fred Nerks]

...No, the AASF isn’t in there

I didn't think so. They have already had to admit he wasn't part of the airlift, now they need to come clean about who his sponsors really were. The Tom Mboya connection is unravelling as we speak.

[Fred Nerks]

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