Posted on 07/27/2005 6:21:50 AM PDT by A. Pole
The June payroll jobs report did not receive much attention due to the July 4 holiday, but the depressing 21st century job performance of the U.S. economy continues unabated.
Only 144,000 private sector jobs were created, each one of which was in domestic services.
Fifty-six thousand jobs were created in professional and business services, about half of which are in administrative and waste services.
Thirty-eight thousand jobs were created in education and health services, almost all of which are in health care and social assistance.
Nineteen thousand jobs were created in leisure and hospitality, almost all of which are waitresses and bartenders.
Membership associations and organizations created 10,000 jobs, and repair and maintenance created 4,000 jobs.
Financial activities created 16,000 jobs.
This most certainly is not the labor market profile of a First World country, much less a superpower.
Where are the jobs for this year’s crop of engineering and science graduates?
U.S. manufacturing lost another 24,000 jobs in June. A country that doesn’t manufacture doesn’t need many engineers. And the few engineering jobs available go to foreigners.
Readers have sent me employment listings from U.S. software development firms. The listings are discriminatory against American citizens. One ad from a company in New Jersey that is a developer for many companies, including Oracle, specifies that the applicant must have a TN visa.
A TN or Trade NAFTA visa is what is given to Mexicans and Canadians who are willing to work in the United States at below prevailing wages.
Another ad from a software consulting company based in Omaha, Neb., specifies it wants software engineers who are H-1B transferees. What this means is that the firm is advertising for foreigners already in the United States who have H-1B work visas.
The reason the U.S. firms specify that they have employment opportunities only for foreigners who hold work visas is because the foreigners will work for less than the prevailing U.S. salary.
Gentle reader, when you read allegations that there is a shortage of engineers in America, necessitating the importation of foreigners to do the work, you are reading a bald-faced lie. If there were a shortage of American engineers, employers would not word their job listings to read that no American need apply and that they are offering jobs only to foreigners holding work visas.
What kind of country gives preference to foreigners over its own engineering graduates?
What kind of country destroys the job market for its own citizens?
How much longer will parents shell out $100,000 for a college education for a son or daughter who ends up employed as a bartender, waitress or temp?
I dont know were the line goes between service and industry. Maybe somebody else in this thread knows.
get a grip.
in 1900 70% of all jobs were agricultural. today less than 3% So what?
Better technology means worldwide there are fewer mfg jobs in the future than the past.
That doesnt bother me. But you will need a good education. That does bother me cause of the abysmal state of US education.
Thanks.
I'll check back later. Got to get to work...
As a former econ major, I can tell you that is correct. He is full of sh*t. It is very typical for service jobs as he describes to be filled in June...to serve the tourist season. Very few professional jobs are filled from june through the end of august. Just before Labor Day the professional and financial services jobs pick up. Roberts is just a bush hater skewing numbers to suit his agenda.
Unfortunately, it's becoming more dream than reality. I've known many people who have worked their "butt off" all their lives and have been thrown away like yesterday's newspaper because Sanjay Bobaganoosh in Bangalore will work for 10 cents on the dollar and the company managers will sell out their US employees in a heartbeat to put that difference on the quarterly bottom line (not in any savings to the customer). To add insult to injury, you have people like you find here on FR, "free" marketeers and "traders" and the like, who will turn around and spit in the guy's face and tell him "it's his fault" for choosing the wrong field, or being lazy, or "expecting" a job, or expecting him to start his own business, or imply that he's looking for "government assistance", when nothing could be further from the truth.
The truth is that this country is selling it's seed corn on the market to the highest foreign bidder to put more money on the short-term profit statements, at the expense of long-term development of infrastructure and intellectual capital. We not only lose what took generations to build, we lose the future, because students in this country can see the writing on the wall. Why spend your youth getting a technical education when some corporate hack like Carly Fiorina can sell you out to some slave labor in Indonesia? Why take all that time and effort studying a "hard sciences" subject when you can get rich quick going to business school and become a corporate officer specializing in outsourcing and downsizing, or a lawyer suing the pants off of individuals or legitimate businesses?
tomjohn, were not competing with Norway. We're competing with slave wages and with people who live where sewage flows in their streets!
It's sheer insanity.
Of course, OTTH, it's perfectly rational for those that want to drive down American wages to subsistence levels.
tomjohn, were not competing with Norway. We're competing with slave wages and with people who live where sewage flows in their streets!
It's sheer insanity.
Of course, OTTH, it's perfectly rational for those that want to drive down American wages to subsistence levels.
YOU SAID..."Suppose I design a new GPS that fits in a fountain pen. I send the specs to China so they could make it and then sell it through radio shack with their label. Am I in service or manufacturing?"
Design Engineers perform a service function within a manufacturing process....but they are MANUFACTURING.
Their product may only be paper or CAD, but it leads to a physical PRODUCT.
A property manager, on the other hand....produces no physical end product ..this is a SERVICE job. Likewise hamburger flippers...unless you consider the product as 'manufactured'...for McDonalds crap...that may be true.
An engineering consultant may either be Manufacturing or Service...depending on the skillset and the clients requirements.
I was just about to sign off -- thanks for that!
Seeing as you don't even have the consideration to post your home state, how can we but wonder where the hell you're coming from and for whom you speak.
Lazy, lilly white, overweight, under-motivated, spoiled mall lizards.
A quote from a friend about his impression of the average middle and upper middle class kid here locally in Indianapolis.
Most of these kids go to college to extend their HS days. Many can't tell you what they intend to major in or do after college. Most end up majoring in Education or General Business.
Thanks for sharing Rush.
"What exactly are his requirements? Can you list them?"
No, you'd have to ask him and he's not a FReeper, as far as I know. But he is the partner in charge of setting compensation for all of the employees (partners and associates) in the firm, so I assume he has a very good idea about the going rate for recent graduates. I have heard him question the work ethic of several of their recent hires. The senior partners are now in their early to mid 60's and still work 55-60 hours a week. They have a hard time getting the young guys to put in an honest 40 hours per week, even at $100,000+. The senior partners want to groom the next generation of partners from the existing associates, but there are apparently no obvious candidates.
Baloney, That's simply not true
Here are some links listing the Bullet manufacturers in this country, There are dozens of them
http://www.ammo.net/ammoman.html
http://www.reloadammo.com/relbul3.htm
http://www.reloadammo.com/relbul2.htm
http://www.sinclairintl.com/links/bullets.html
Yea, that's why we had to buy bullets from China for our troops in Iraq.
Do have a link (besides from The America First Party) for that assertion?
China is the biggest importer of Military Technology, I wouldn't be surprised if we were the ones selling them bullets and not the other way around.
ping
I'm from NYC, but I travel extensively into the burbs, midwest, and pacific northwest. Further -- I talk to everyone I meet. I talk to the lady waiting tables at the Waffle House, the guy tending bar at the airport theme bar, six businessmen out for a night on the town in Vegas. I'm the guy on the airplane in coach who talks for six hours to the grandmother traveling cross country to help with the new baby. And, too, I have friends scattered across the country.
Likewise, I have seen the kinds of kids going to NYC's specialty high schools as well as places like Dalton and Martingale, etc.
And I promise you, what I am saying is not meant as an insult, but simply an observation that has caused me some distress.
Quote: Because to the American consumer, the bottom line is a cheaper product.
Maybe they are buying the cheaper product out of necessity because their high paying job is gone.
>> We manufacture more than we ever have. <<
Like what? I haven't seen a pair of shoes or gloves made in the USA in years.
There was a large discussion on this topic here at FR a few months back. Should not be to hard for you to find.
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