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America’s Descent Into the Third World
Chronicles Magazine ^ | Monday, July 25, 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 07/27/2005 6:21:50 AM PDT by A. Pole

The June payroll jobs report did not receive much attention due to the July 4 holiday, but the depressing 21st century job performance of the U.S. economy continues unabated.

Only 144,000 private sector jobs were created, each one of which was in domestic services.

Fifty-six thousand jobs were created in professional and business services, about half of which are in administrative and waste services.

Thirty-eight thousand jobs were created in education and health services, almost all of which are in health care and social assistance.

Nineteen thousand jobs were created in leisure and hospitality, almost all of which are waitresses and bartenders.

Membership associations and organizations created 10,000 jobs, and repair and maintenance created 4,000 jobs.

Financial activities created 16,000 jobs.

This most certainly is not the labor market profile of a First World country, much less a superpower.

Where are the jobs for this year’s crop of engineering and science graduates?

U.S. manufacturing lost another 24,000 jobs in June. A country that doesn’t manufacture doesn’t need many engineers. And the few engineering jobs available go to foreigners.

Readers have sent me employment listings from U.S. software development firms. The listings are discriminatory against American citizens. One ad from a company in New Jersey that is a developer for many companies, including Oracle, specifies that the applicant must have a TN visa.

A TN or Trade NAFTA visa is what is given to Mexicans and Canadians who are willing to work in the United States at below prevailing wages.

Another ad from a software consulting company based in Omaha, Neb., specifies it wants software engineers who are H-1B transferees. What this means is that the firm is advertising for foreigners already in the United States who have H-1B work visas.

The reason the U.S. firms specify that they have employment opportunities only for foreigners who hold work visas is because the foreigners will work for less than the prevailing U.S. salary.

Gentle reader, when you read allegations that there is a shortage of engineers in America, necessitating the importation of foreigners to do the work, you are reading a bald-faced lie. If there were a shortage of American engineers, employers would not word their job listings to read that no American need apply and that they are offering jobs only to foreigners holding work visas.

What kind of country gives preference to foreigners over its own engineering graduates?

What kind of country destroys the job market for its own citizens?

How much longer will parents shell out $100,000 for a college education for a son or daughter who ends up employed as a bartender, waitress or temp?


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1 posted on 07/27/2005 6:21:50 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; Pyro7480; ...

"How much longer will parents shell out $100,000 for a college education for a son or daughter who ends up employed as a bartender, waitress or temp?"


2 posted on 07/27/2005 6:23:49 AM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: A. Pole

I think no small part of preferring foreign-born engineering graduates to home-grown is in their scholastic performance. Too many here are content to just squeak by on math and science.


3 posted on 07/27/2005 6:24:03 AM PDT by NRA1995 (West Virginia needs neurosurgeons like San Francisco needs gynecologists)
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To: Willie Green

Ping!

(Just wanted to make your day, Willie.)


4 posted on 07/27/2005 6:24:18 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure!)
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To: A. Pole

How can the U.S. be third world when we produce so many intellegent, productive attorneys?


5 posted on 07/27/2005 6:27:00 AM PDT by Bertha Fanation
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To: Bertha Fanation
"How can the U.S. be third world when we produce so many intellegent, productive attorneys?"

Don't think any of us have ALL DAY to respond to that one! LOL.....

6 posted on 07/27/2005 6:30:00 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: NRA1995
I think no small part of preferring foreign-born engineering graduates to home-grown is in their scholastic performance. Too many here are content to just squeak by on math and science.

That's the conundrum. The best and brightest of our US-born students are smart enough to see what is happening out there. They think, why should I spend four or six or eight years in school pursuing a difficult field of study, only to be either unemployed or have my job outsourced to Bangalore?

And please, people, spare us the routine FR bromides about "it's their own fault for choosing the wrong field", or "start your own business, you lazy bum". For a student looking to start an academic program, that kind of crap is not the kind of thing that will encourage them.

7 posted on 07/27/2005 6:31:14 AM PDT by chimera
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To: NRA1995; A. Pole

"How much longer will parents shell out $100,000 for a college education for a son or daughter who ends up employed as a bartender, waitress or temp?"

I think NRA1995's reply:"I think no small part of preferring foreign-born engineering graduates to home-grown is in their scholastic performance. Too many here are content to just squeak by on math and science."

pretty well sums it up. Maybe if a few more spoiled American kids had to pay for their OWN education, they'd be more involved AND committed. I come in contact with both foreign and American students...I'd hire the foreign one over the American every time. East Indians, just as an example, are probably NOT smarter...they're just willing to work for what they want. They have not been handed everything and appreciate what their earned money can buy.


8 posted on 07/27/2005 6:33:09 AM PDT by Maria S
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To: Bertha Fanation
How can the U.S. be third world when we produce so many intellegent, productive attorneys?

I think you just answered your own question.

And yeah, I do happen to think Shakespeare was right.

9 posted on 07/27/2005 6:39:40 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Thanks to the Leftists, yesterday's deviants are today's "alternate lifestyles.")
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To: A. Pole

Oh don’t worry, our savor Hillary Clinton will rescue us! She is superwomen, she can do anything and she will save the USA!

yeeeah right..


10 posted on 07/27/2005 6:40:55 AM PDT by herst1240
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To: All

More BS from Paul Craig Roberts..


11 posted on 07/27/2005 6:42:05 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: NRA1995

I think no small part of perferring foreign-born ...etc. is because they are cheap.


12 posted on 07/27/2005 6:44:25 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: A. Pole
"How much longer will parents shell out $100,000 for a college education for a son or daughter who ends up employed as a bartender, waitress or temp?"

Better question is how much longer will they shell out $$$$$ so they can be brain washed in Marxism by a bunch of left wing kooks who never had a real job
13 posted on 07/27/2005 6:47:32 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: NRA1995

That is a ridiculous, uniformed, unsupportable statement.


14 posted on 07/27/2005 6:47:46 AM PDT by clearsight (forsake your popularity and do what is right for God's sake and ours.........)
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To: A. Pole
We represent five percent of the world's population and we have been living large for fifty years.

The rest of the world is catching up with us and we are going to have to compete for the lucrative jobs.

Before we only had to compete against other Americans, now we have to compete against the world.

Being born in this country gives us a huge advantage against others, but it is no longer a guarantee of success.
15 posted on 07/27/2005 6:48:26 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The MSM is a cancer on our society)
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To: KevinDavis

Do you have something intelligent to say in response to cold, hard facts ? Do we need more brainless cheerleading from you ?


16 posted on 07/27/2005 6:49:14 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: A. Pole
Really. According to the WSJ, Higher-Paid Jobs Rise at Faster Clip Lower-Wage Sectors Trail For the First Time in Years, In Healthy Economic Sign By KRIS MAHER Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL July 12, 2005 In a sign of an improving U.S. job market, the growth of higher-paying hourly jobs is outpacing that of lower-paying jobs for the first time in nearly four years, according to an analysis of Labor Department data by the Economic Policy Institute. The Washington-based liberal economic think tank, which has bemoaned the dominance of low-paying jobs in recent years, compared year-over-year employment growth and wage data for nonmanagerial jobs in 20 private-sector industries. The analysis found that nine sectors expanding as a share of total employment paid about 3% more in average hourly wages than 11 sectors that were contracting in the first quarter. That marked the first time since the most recent recession that higher-wage jobs have grown faster as a share of total jobs. Link requires subscription.
17 posted on 07/27/2005 6:49:53 AM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: Sam the Sham; All

When I see an article from him, it is usally full of BS.. Never mind that unemployment rate is low. Never mind that housing market is booming. Never mind that orders for high ticket items went up for third straight month.


18 posted on 07/27/2005 6:50:59 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: chimera

"For a student looking to start an academic program, that kind of crap is not the kind of thing that will encourage them."

I've come to the conclusion that there is a contingent here, (not a small contingent), that cares nothing about encouraging anyone. They care nothing about their neighbors. The don't give a hoot about anything other than their wallet.
Those stock replies are intended to make them feel justified in their stance.
Newton's 3rd law is in effect on this one.


19 posted on 07/27/2005 6:51:34 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: NRA1995
I think no small part of preferring foreign-born engineering graduates to home-grown is in their scholastic performance. Too many here are content to just squeak by on math and science.

From my experience, H1Bs are generally not math or science whizzes.

20 posted on 07/27/2005 6:52:44 AM PDT by snowsislander
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