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Half Of Western European Men Descended From One Bronze Age 'King'
Telegraph UK ^ | April 25, 2016 | Sarah Knapton, Science Editor

Posted on 04/30/2016 2:15:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Half of Western European men are descended from one Bronze Age 'king' who sired a dynasty of elite nobles which spread throughout Europe, a new study has shown.

The monarch, who lived around 4,000 years ago, is likely to have been one of the earliest chieftains to take power in the continent...

It is likely his power stemmed from advances in technology such as metal working and wheeled transport which enabled organised warfare for the first time.

Although it is not known who he was, or where he lived, scientists say he must have existed because of genetic variation in today's European populations.

Dr Chris Tyler-Smith, from the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, said... "Half of the Western European population is descended from just one man. We can only speculate as to what happened. The best explanation is that they may have resulted from advances in technology that could be controlled by small groups of men.

"Wheeled transport, metal working and organised warfare are all candidate explanations that can now be investigated further."

The study analysed sequence differences between the Y chromosomes of more than 1200 men from 26 populations around the world using data generated by the 1000 Genomes Project...

The team used the data to build a tree of the 1200 Y chromosomes. It shows how they are all related to one another. As expected, they all descend from a single man who lived approximately 190,000 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: 1000genomesproject; ancientautopsies; attillathehun; bronzeage; conan; europe; fauxiantrolls; genealogy; genghiskhan; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; kull; niallofthe9hostages
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To: JohnnyP

Half from the monarch 4,000 years ago. Every man in Europe from a guy 190,000 years ago.


61 posted on 04/30/2016 5:47:17 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: SunkenCiv

“The survival of DNA will always be a random process”

Only partly true. For successful horndogs like this monarch, it’s not random as to the next generation. If he has 200 sons, subsequent randomness will favor his genes over a randomly selected guy in his generation.

Also, if his success and abilities are partly inherited by those sons, or passed on by the fact they are a king’s kid, his sons would also have a reproductive advantage for their, and therefore his, genes.

And, he may have just had good genes. Smarter, stronger etc. Or just really good looking. So their survival would be favored in a natural selection process.


62 posted on 04/30/2016 5:52:46 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: SunkenCiv

Droit du Seigneur at work?

I think Ghengis Khan got the other half of the world.


63 posted on 04/30/2016 6:48:13 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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To: njslim

The Bronze Age King invented the 4 wheeled horse drawn chariot with a back seat which was, BTW, the only one in Europe, known as the Mercedes-Bender, thus allowing make-outs at every drive-in Stone Henge. This increased the population overnight, as it were, and his horses were very very fast.


64 posted on 04/30/2016 7:23:57 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: BiggerTigger

Yup.

That guy.

:D


65 posted on 04/30/2016 7:29:44 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives...)
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To: disndat

Sean Connery was not only an Immortal and a Freemason he also flew around in a stone head delivering rifles to the savages.


66 posted on 04/30/2016 7:46:54 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Taiwan story is yet another indicator of sea travel a long way back.
Would also like to know how old the jaw found by the fishermen is.

Half of Euro men descended from one guy in an age where travel was so difficult and folks spread out in little villages?
Color me dubious.


67 posted on 04/30/2016 8:49:23 PM PDT by Rockpile (GOP legislators-----caviar eating surrender monkeys.)
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To: SunkenCiv
More likely you had several brother who were peddlers.

Traveling would allow you to visit a number of different settlement to "spread your seed" either by commerce, seduction or just hospitality.

They were not stupid back then and understood inbreeding was not a good thing. This would be a simple way of getting new male blood into your settlement without the social risk of accepting a new male who might become dominate.

68 posted on 04/30/2016 9:07:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

People lived a lot longer, way back then :)


69 posted on 05/01/2016 10:25:18 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: ModelBreaker
For successful horndogs like this monarch, it’s not random as to the next generation.
The problem is, "this monarch" isn't actually known to have existed, making your statement a tautology. If a tomb had been found, containing the remains of someone (even an unknown) who was buried in something reasonably construed as a royal fashion, and his DNA was still in good enough shape to test, AND that turned out to be the DNA they're talking about, that's just fine.


70 posted on 05/01/2016 12:22:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Probably those cave paintings are just pictographic versions of traveling salesman jokes.

71 posted on 05/01/2016 12:24:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: VanDeKoik

“But father, I don’t like her.”

“Don’t like her? What’s wrong with her? She’s beautiful, she’s rich, she’s got huuuuuge tracts of land...”


72 posted on 05/01/2016 12:28:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: central_va; Trod Upon

Bronze Age Horndogs, another good band name. ;’)


73 posted on 05/01/2016 12:28:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Rockpile

:’)


74 posted on 05/01/2016 12:31:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: PIF; SunkenCiv; LoneRangerMassachusetts

PIF: “And still other tests show fully modern humans at 250,000 years ago ..”

Much depends on which tests and how exactly you define those words “fully modern”.

Just for example: I would call my children “fully modern”, myself more like stone-aged Neanderthal.

;-)


75 posted on 05/02/2016 8:25:19 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Zeneta; SunkenCiv

Zenta: “...if you are able to digest information objectively, I recommend it.”

I’d call your link-site anything but “objective”.
And am pretty sure some of those articles have ended up as Free Republic threads, where they get rather thoroughly picked apart.


76 posted on 05/02/2016 8:34:11 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK; SunkenCiv

I never suggested the website I linked was objective.

Quite the opposite. I suggested the “reader” needs to be objective.


77 posted on 05/02/2016 4:22:11 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: BroJoeK; SunkenCiv

If I may add this.

Evolution, as a theory, has been in crisis for many years now.

Their tactics read like mirror images of the “Global Warming” crowd. This is something that any objective person should find at least a bit curious.

For the Evolutionist, they are left with “Panspermia” as their only out.

Panspermia comes with its own set of very serious problems.

Here’s another website for the Objective reader; http://www.uncommondescent.com/


78 posted on 05/02/2016 4:54:38 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL


79 posted on 05/02/2016 10:09:50 PM PDT by Trod Upon (To be labelled "far-right" by modern journalists, one need do no more than NOT be far-left.)
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To: njslim; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; All

It wasn’t just polygamy that helped, but concubinage. Kings of Siam, Turkey and others had hundreds of concubines and wives. I’m not sure that thy coming of the “Aryans”is entirely mythical. Something major happened to Europe around that time and it came from the East.


80 posted on 05/03/2016 12:18:17 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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