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Actually, he falsely claimed that,"Scientific proof of that has been provided by the well-known J. B. Rhine experiments."

The tests are there. The fact that new tests called those into question doesn't mean that people were out of bounds to refer to Rhine's before they were refuted. Jung also conducted tests on his own patients which seemed to imply something of greater than statistical probability. These were also later refuted. Until refuted it is not illegitimate to refer to them.

Computers are sentient if enough people simply believe that they are, just like "scientific proof" for supernatural powers has been provided simply because Jung believed the nonexistent proof existed.

That's not the point of the test. "Turing, for his part, never intended his test to be used as a practical, day-to-day measure of the intelligence of AI programs; he wanted to provide a clear and understandable example to aid in the discussion of the philosophy of artificial intelligence."

And my day of waiting is over. They are closing and will apparently not keep my appointment. Thank you for providing a diversion from the crap waiting lounge.

There was NO evidence

In the quote you pulled he cites the testing from J. Rhine as well as results from tests with his own patients.

We should always be careful about such things but 1918 and the black death seem good reasons for us to have good quarantine plans in place at all levels of government. I don’t think this is sinister as yet.

What was truly chilling about the Assembly's debates was that the revisionists seemed to quote Jesus and the Bible as knowledgeably and persuasively as the orthodox. Passages reinforcing their respective agendas were selected and then brilliantly woven into their arguments.

Hmmm. The fact that they are still citing biblical authority is a good sign. They can still be spoken to in a somewhat common language. And when you can communicate you can hope for change. The ELCA had to make big changes to get to this place. That means the changes just as big as this can happen again.

I don’t mean to be dense but I’m missing the link to why this is tagged with “homosexual agenda” ... I don’t see how it advances it or how gay men are involved. Could someone enlighten me?

Thanks for the New Age psycho-babble

*shrug* Unexpected connections - latent ideas - synchronicity. None of these have to strain scientific belief. Do you sometimes sleep on a matter and then make a decision? The you've probably thought about it in the back of your mind. Is that idea always easy to bring out into the open? Sometimes yes but sometimes no. Randomness can help because you can study what you project onto the randomness. I don't care what tools people use to chisel those ideas out.

Nice foot shot. Oh, and he was full of crap.

No - in the absence of evidence to the contrary you work with the evidence you have while regularly testing it. That's they way scientific method works. A lot of scientific ideas have been discredited over the centuries by just such means. Sometimes by people that believed in them up to the time they they performed the test that discredited it.

"Where he was describing his faith in and use of horoscopes."

Yes. As a tool for making new mental connections. For comparing sybols. "I am chiefly interested in the particular light the horoscope sheds on certain complications in the character." I'm not a Jungian - I don't place a lot of faith in a lot of his ideas - but even I can admit that you don't have to believe in literal truth of something to make use of it. I don't believe in astrology or worship greek gods but I routinely use those symbols in my artwork. I don't believe in fate but I keep a bag of random art projects around when I don't know what to paint or draw next.

Then I’ve probably misremembered the book I read it from. I provided quotes from Synchronicity where he limist astrology to libido symbols and projections. I also provided a quote on telepathy. By typing Jung into Google. Something you are also capable of.

"Although over the centuries various theories have been advanced to describe the functioning of telepathy, none seem to be adequate. In conclusion telepathy, like the other forms of psychic phenomena is elusive and difficult to test systematically. Enough evidence is available to reasonably substantiate the phenomenon does exist. But, quantifying it seems to be another matter. The phenomenon is closely connect to the emotional states on both the sender and receiver which creates difficulty in replicating experimental results. Attitudinal factors also influence the phenomenon."

A statement that something appears to be the case - a flat statement that current theories are inadequate - a follow up saying that it appears to be hard to test - and closer stating that the emotional state appears to play a part. Ringing endorsement or carefully limited to the science?

Here’s a quote from Chapter 2 of Synchronicity: “I formed the opinion that astrology is of particular interest to the psychologist, since it contains a sort of psychological experience which we call ‘projected’ - this means that we find the psychological facts as it were in the constellations.”

Actually - here’s a google quote from “Jung Astrology” .. one of the first that comes up is a letter to Freud “I dare say that we shall one day discover in astrology a good deal of knowledge that has been intuitively projected into the heavens. For instance, it appears that the signs of the zodiac are character pictures, in other words libido symbols which depict the typical qualities of the libido at a given moment.” - character pictures and libido symbols don’t sound like “As above so below”

Jung did.

And Jung and astrology aren't the subject. But as an interesting aside you can also dig out that copy of MDR you seem to have handy and find the quote where he explicitly states that astrology is not to be taken for literal truth but rather for active examples of the personality archetypes cropping up, again, throughout human history. He would consult I Ching or Zoroastrian fire temples if he thought it would help a patient while putting zero literal faith in it.

No quote, naturally.No quote because I travel with a cell phone - not my entire print library. MDR is a biography - Keep reading because he also disavows some of these things in later life. But the quote you use does cite the experiments from J. Rhine. Is that not what you are interested in? That there were scientific studies considered credible at that time? Later refuted studies but studies all the same.

Looks like a fake citation, not found by Google.A yellowed copy sits on my shelf. Out of print and little referenced does not mean fake.

It’s just too vivid an image for me. Some man squatting in a pit under a porta potty. And the phrase “$h!t eating grin” comes to mind. No. Just no. Too much. I won’t use the bathroom at my park for weeks.

No no no no no no nononononononono.

And, if you can, comment on the possibility of a laserjet that can print on printable CDs and DVDs.

When I sold DVD's at my gallery I would user the color laser to print on labels that I would then apply to the disc. Would that work for you or do you make enough DVD's that you really need to print directly on the disc?

No.

No.

No.

For photographers, we’re doomed without expensive and very high quality 8 or 10 color inkjet printers that cost a palatable fortune to maintain.

I know. And the inks dry in what seems like seconds after you plug the cartridge in. And they never last long enough. I've experimented with color laser prints because the toner is, in theory, pretty archival for certain colors... but only for things where I image transfer the toner onto another surface.. like wax or wood. Photographers are stuck.

I’m interested... Make & Model? And how large are the prints? I’ve looked at some instructions and kits for converting my Epson to a continuous ink system but I also want to print wider images ... I’m limited to 16” right now. They can be as long as the roll of paper but only 16 inches wide.