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You are so right. A short history lesson, in the UK the citizen's right to bear arms was not infringed until 1920(there had been an attempt in 1688, when the King's(Charles II) supporters had attempted to bring in a law restricting the citizens right to keep and bear arms. This had been thrown out by Parliament as 'the last protection from a tyrannous Govt, is an population able to defend itself'. A concept the Founding Fathers of the US took with them to the New World), the excuse for the first Firearms Act was the formation of the Communist Party of Great Britain. The Govt used the fear of revolution to restrict the citizen from owning arms. It said during ther debate that 'those who support the Government have no reason to fear the Bill as it is aimed at the nation's enemies'. The Home Office(the British Office of Homeland Security) has continued ever since to disarm the population, and it has almost succeeded. Most restrictions on arms have been put in place by the Conservative Party in Britain. Don't think that Republican Government will keep you secure.
So be warned, it will happen to you, if you allow it.

Relax, people, Israel has 78% of Palestine, its a regional military super power, the US provides unconditonal support and 10 billion dollars of military support ever year.Bush knows that to undermine one of Al Quada's major recruitment platforms in the Islamic world is the establishment of Palestinian state, based on the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as its capital. Sharon knows without US support Israel would not exist. He has to accept the road map. There are rejectionists on both sides, the Nile to Europhrates faction in Israel and Hamas and Islamic Jihad on the Palestinian side. The establishment of a viable Palestinian state as Bush seems to have have grasped is a vital element in the War against Terrorism.

For Marcia to enjoy her 'move to the suburbs', the Palestinians who lived there have been disposed and exiled from their homes.

this story is rubbish, the US media never questions any story that comes out of Israel, if Arafat walked on water, the US media's take would be Arafat can't swim!

I'm surprised Derbyshire could type this drivel, his Klan gown must have got in the way.

The review of the book on Jesse Jackson seems pretty damning, although there appears to be the usual guilt by association charges in the review.

I am always suspicious of the speaker for the 'common man' who travels first class. Must be the primitive methodist in me.

Jesse seems to belong to that long line of demogogues who line their own pockets with people's hopes.

Perhaps the IRS could investigate his tax returns.

As for Amnesty International, I don't know of any country they have not criticised. Unless you believe that any one or organisation who criticises the US or its allies(particularly Israel)is criminal. Even the Pope no longer claims infallibility!

It still comes down to this; The IDF kept any journalist out of Jenin, at gun point where necessary. The IDF would not allow medical aid to enter the camp or the evacuation of injured civilians. 50% of the bodies recovered so far are women and children. I don't believe a massacre took place i.e people lined up and shot in large numbers as in Sebrenica etc. I do believe that the IDF ran amok in Jenin after the ambush which killed 13 soldiers. Why else have the Israelis denied access to Jenin to outside media for so long? Why have the Israelis put so much effort to ensure that there would be no investigation of the events in Jenin?

Would you care to define the 'criminality' of Amnesty International? I know Jesse Jackson is an unprincipled band-wagon follower, but he is more a clown than a criminal.

This will be the report which even the Israeli press don't believe, it claims that EU as well as American money has funded Palestinian attacks on Israel, claims that one of the Palstinian officials who worked for seven years with the CIA is was a leader of "terrorism". Dan Naveh, the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs, who presented this report to journalists in Jerusalem, yesterday, had great difficulty explaining to them, that if Mr Arafat and one of his underlings Tawfiq Tirawi were organisers of terror, how the Israeli Government could have freed them both. Maybe Sharon will offer GWB one of the dozens of British-made Land Rovers taken from the Palestinian Authority by the IDF at the orders of Chief of Staff Shaul Mofaz; and now being fought over by various units within the IDF. After all GWB won't read the report, too many pages no pictures.

So you accept that 1 million Palestinian Arabs fled their homes in Palestine from areas which had been mandated by the UN as Israel. So where do you stand on the right of return? There are people in refugee camps who have the deeds and the keys to their houses in Haifa. What would you say to them?

EXODUS is a work of fiction dummy!

I am reminded of the American Jew who said during the run up to 1948 'when ever I here of a British death[in Palestine] I have a song in my heart.' The British are accused of anti-semitism because they protested about Jewish terrorists killing British civilians and troops in Palestine, how unreasonable. The much quoted Balfour Declaration supported the 'establishment of a Jewish homeland' in Palestine. However the second sentence of the Declaration said 'provided the rights and possessions of the indigenous population are not infringed'. The pro-Israeli lobby are diligent in ensuring every-one forgets that one. Israel will have no peace or security until there is justice for the Palestinians i.e a viable contiguous state with East Jerusalem as its capital.

Lets not forget he was killed by 'friendly fire' i.e. the U.S. Air Force. The old adage still stands if there are U.S. air forces around, dig deep and look high!

Well, let us wait and see. The IDF kept every-one out for 11 days. Let us see what transpires over the next few weeks. You won't believe it, even if evidence is shown of indiscriminate slaughter will you? Judging by what the Israeli Ambassador was saying on the news this morning, the line is : - there has been no massacre, Jenin was not a refugee camp, the Palestinians blew the buildings up themselves, any palestinian civilians killed where killed by PLO fighters, any dead palestinian male was a suicide bomber or a militant. Let us see what comes out of the rubble.

Paul was the person who first first advocated the divinity of Christ. The disciples(who were Christ's contemporaries) believed Christ had had a divine revelation(like the prophets).Hence the arguments amongst the early christians whether Christ's message was just for Jews or for Gentiles(who had to convert to Judaism in order to be saved) Paul and his followers lost the argument and left Jerusalem for Dasmascus(which before Constantine made Christianity the state religion and made Rome the centre of the church, was the most important city in early Christianity). When the Jewish Zealots rose against Rome and were defeated and the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and massacred its inhabitants, the Paulite faction's position on Christ prevailed. Hence Christians should really be called Paulites. Before any-one flames me on this read 'The Doctrine and Practice of the Early Chrurch'.

The emergency telephone number in the UK is 999. So if somethin significant happened on the 9th of September 1909, nobody noticed(before anybody posts the Tunguska event happened in 1906). My concern about Icke is that he was laughed out of the UK, but can fill 2000 seater venues in the US at $25 at seat!

You seem to be alone on this thread over the Saudi Peace Plan. My take on the reaction is that, the Israeli-firsters are following the Nile to Euphrates faction in Israeli politics who persist in the desire to create what they believe is the 'God given' grant of land to his 'chosen people'. A negotiated settlement based on the Saudi plan would give Israel what is has never had, clearly defined borders. No wonder Sharon would not allow Arafat to go to the conference. Likud and its allies cannot allow any move to a settlement which would constrain their territorial ambitions. People have said that the plan gives Israeli nothing, as if the acceptanced by the Palestinians and their allies of the Israeli acquisition of 78% of Palestine is nothing! No matter how much they twist and turn over the issue, the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the creation of a viable Palestinian state, with East Jerusalem as its capital. Genocidal fanatasies on both sides,remain just that fantasies.

If foreign nations decided to divide your homeland and give half of it to foreigners. If armed men came and killed your parents/grandparents/ neighbours and drove you out of your homes(for which you still have the keys) and you were born in a refugee camp in Canada would your see your self as a Canadian or would yourself as an American who wished to return to your homeland. What would you say to those who say there never was a America or such a thing as an American, and why can't you make a place for yourself in Canada?

What I mean is that reviewing the history of military incursions into Afghanistan from Alexander the Great to the Soviet Union is that Afghanistan has a tendency to swallow large numbers of troops. It appears that the current military operations in Afghanistan are having the effect of bringing the Pashtuns(from whom the Taliban come) into the fighting. The coalition may have started by targeting the Taliban and Al-Qe'ada network but increasing numbers of Pashtun clans are being drawn in. Despite what bobthenailer may wish the US is not immune to this. We are all infidels to the tribes and we may find ourselves fighting our way out. Its a danger we must be aware of.

1,700 Marines this time, more to follow? The Afghan Government's writ does'nt run further than Kabul. The historical reality of Afghanistan is that the putative government does not control the tribes or the moountains. In the 19th Century the British lost 60,000 trying to control Afghanistan. In the 20th Century the British tried air power, bombing the villages of uncooperative, belligerent tribesmen when they persisted in attacking British/Indian positions and territory. You are dealing with people to whom guerilla warfare is second nature. I predict the US will(after mounting casualities) pull out within six months, claiming their job is done.