As for being “presidential material,” I’d say he may or may not be. I’d just ask FReepers to acknowledge that his pluses in NY should count in his favor in presidential race. Not that they should outweigh everything else, necessarily.
The facts you are citing are fair enough. But to say he’s no better than a Rat is ridiculous. To use some of the names that have been used against him if ridiculous. And to say people who defend him (or even support him) are just as liberal as — or as bad as — Rudy is also ridiculous.
Talk about his record all you want. But stop the name-calling. The man has done much for NY, has often opposed some very bad people at great cost to his popularity pre-9/11, and deserves at least that much respect if nothing else.
But it’s also a forum. That implies that people say intelligent things, not just vent. You and your ignorant, bigoted, hateful, anti-Republican ilk are just venting. Go fart somewhere else.