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Here are some more quotes regarding socialism in schools:
"You can’t make socialists out of individualists – children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society which is coming, where every one is interdependent."

- John Dewey 1930s (He was born in 1899).

http://www.mackinac.org/pubs/mer/article.asp?ID=7916

More about him: http://www.iep.utm.edu/d/dewey.htm

"The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother's care, shall be in state institutions at state expense."

– Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto

"Education for international understanding involves the use of education as a force for conditioning the will of the people."

- National Education Association (NEA), Education for International Understanding in American Schools, page 33 (1948)

"Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round".

–Adolf Hitler, from his book “Mein Kampf” page 376

http://www.theeducationalrevolution.com/quotes.htm

We "can do" many things, but those things may, or may not work - and most will most certainly NOT have any worthwhile result on global warming. Almost ALL that the liberals want to do about global warming only destroys the US economy.

I agree, none of them mention thermo voltaic cells out on market and how much more efficient they are than photo voltaic. No mention about successful experiments in nuclear waste (specifically reducing the half-life) reduction in Germany or in California (super-collider experiment).

My favorite is the mentioning of how much C02 is emitted by man, but not what percentage it is of the atmosphere (about 0.0005%). Yet, "solar variance" is completely ignored because it would hurt their agenda.

Yes - natural

Fascism on the rise, lot of people want to help save us from ourselves...

Yup, now that they'll be using lights with mercury in them, they will soon push for a recycling program (so more combustion engines to haul them around and more buildings using electricity). Can I claim I have an addiction to incandescent bulbs? A treatment center for addicts is next.

This makes my head hurt....

More signs of the stupidity of liberalism, socialism, fascism (private companies with state dictated rules).

Leftist politicians and many "green coats" push fluorescent lamps, but only have barely enough intelligence to flip on/off the switch.

What about the higher costs?
What about choice?
What about the poor choice they are in cold weather?
What about all the %$#^@ mercury with billions of bulbs?
There are low-mercury lamps and still no mercury-free, but they cost a LOT more. Also, don't forget that even though fluorescent lights have been used since before WWII, you will have idiots scared because they "didn't know they were polluting". Remember that these bulbs require special handling and recycling (thus more people driving around and transporting these bulbs in combustion engines and using more electricity for their compounds).

So in the big picture we'll end up using less intiial electricity, but spend a lot of it in regulations, mercury clean-up, and energy used to do this (especially when we get charged "mercury bulb deposit" taxes)! Thanks to the government educated enviro"mental" idiots!!!!!!! The money isn't saved... it's redistributed!

This socialist liberalism makes my head hurt. They hate capitalism and thinking, otherwise they'd mention LEDs and other non-toxic, high efficiency lighting methods under way to replace what we currently use.

There's always the Antonov An-225 and 747-8 (Boeing is still working on that one)

How about one befitting this politician....The Spruce Goose!!

Or maybe an SR-71 spy place or even a C-5....

He is pointing out that if you have a problem, leadership requires trying to solve the problem. algore's solution might be to put us back in the stone age.

This is not the role of government.

Lose the lobbyists, lose any business tax, and deregulate, then you'll see faster results. Large corporations don't take the same level of risks that smaller companies do. But the larger companies can afford to keep up with regulations. Oh no, my Libertarian side is showing.... and I don't think Rudy Giuliani has one. But there's still a year and a half to go.

While it may be cute to deride the Global Warming crowd because of the snow and cold that we are experiencing, it just descends to their level.

I slightly disagree. Calling them a "Nazi", "racist", "sexist", "homophobic", "specist", "Islamophobic", "ant-social". "hate-filled", "warmongerer", "polluter", "animal-hater", "greedy", and of course "neocon" would be descending to their level.

Mocking them in an absurd fashion can be fun, and sometimes it can draw them out for factual debate.

Global warming refers to an average...an average in a distribution that is likely to exhibit greater variance toward extremes, too.

Please state sources for that greater "variance" claim. Is it:

Man caused
El Niño/La Niña
Milankovitch cycles
Variations in any of the Hadley/Ferrel/Polar cells
Sun spot activity like the Maunder Minimum
Maybe another Mount Tambora.

BTW, it's global average temperature.

Global warming is what the sun does to the earth. Stand in front of a fire and you have mammal warming.
The extremes should be taken with a grain of salt. The records aren't as reliable before 1850, but they still pale in comparison to today's equipment. 1850 had 1.2 billion people. Less dispersion and less equipment.
Thermometers were manual back then and required someone to monitor it. Now we can do that remotely and mark the lowest temperature. There are also far more scientific minded people to record data.

FYI the temperature increase in the last Century (or Millennium) is an ESTIMATE:

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes:

"The best estimate of global surface temperature change is a 0.6 °C increase since the late 19th century with a 95% confidence interval of 0.4 to 0.8 °C"

I'm trying to not let my head explode over this.

GW Bush: We need more troops to help Iraq.
Democrats: No more troops, this policy (which hasn't even happened yet) won't work.

Democrats: We need MORE government to fix (Education/Environment/Social Security/Welfare).
Response: No more money for the same policy, decades have passed and it's not working.
Democrats: It's for the (insert buzzword here)!!! Think of the (buzzword)!!!

Ah yes, government schooling at it's finest.

Cold fusion replay?

Thank you Purdue, for continuing the proof that taxpayer money results in very little scientific advancement.

I lived near the Hanford Nuclear Site for almost 30 years and was disgusted by similar results. Billions of dollars spent by government and very little improvement. Purdue is just par for the course.

I'm sure the sight of Hillary's thighs rubbing together until they met her knees would lose her a couple of percentage points, but it would "beef" up her support of the Rosie O'Donnell bull section of the electorate, as well as the millions of American Women with the same affliction.

So my analysis is this, Hillary Clinton in a bikini is worth roughly a 1.5 percentage point bump in the polls, so bring it on Hillary, we could use a 1000 post comedy thread.

I'm betting it would hurt her more, because she'd lose the feminazis and have less women admire her (Rosie does not qualify as a woman).

Let's hope Hillary Clinton won't try this tactic.

There are possibilities:
1. Will Greenpeace try and push it out into the ocean?
2. Will the EPA fine Bill Clinton and New York for dumping toxic waste near the water?
3. How will it effect "global warming" will all that white skin reflecting solar radiation?
4. Would cottage cheese makers need a bailout because of the resulting loss in sales, due to lawsuits and the traumatic stress of little tubs of "Hillary reminders" in the fridge?

That was well said and very persuasive. I have to agree with you.

>GRINNING< that was articulate... that makes you the first mainstream RedStateRocker-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice ummm.... typing guy.

I must be paraphrasing someone..... I swear I've heard it before. Let's vote on it, then vote on a non-binding resolution where we disapprove of it......

Why not make it $100.00 an hour ?

Let's just go for the whole kit and kaboodle.... first, your new minimum wage... then, how about maximum wages!!! Then we can also put price controls on everything and arrest people who quit for not working if they are deemed capable.... it would be a new era.... gee this sounds familiar....

Oops! I borrowed those ideas from a few hundred dictators that prefer that method. Shall we mindlessly chant "Government good, free market bad". (sigh) Nothing like being told what to pay for something... or else.

How'd Congress turn into the Mafia??

Was Pope Leo XIII a Communist?

Nope, just a liberty hater according to Testem Benevolentiae, with a strong dislike of the melting pot and of freedom of the press. Though Pope Pius IX was worse with his condemnation of freedom of religion, separation of church and state and of the concept called human reason.

Though they both have similar viewpoints to Marx and socialists and communists who also deny the concept of man being able to use reason.

I agree with you. Though I consider A. Pole to be using an apples and oranges comparison.

The speed limit is based on physics. Enough energy and anything can be destroyed. A. Pole is using the physical world to contrast against something that only humans recognize, that being monetary value.

If I give bear a liter of solid butter and a liter of solid gold, we all know the bear will eat the butter. I do the same with a human and tell them only one can be chosen, the gold is taken. Apples and oranges....

What I especially like is your concise and to the point message versus A. Pole just using religious dogma of a man that was against what this country is supposed to stand for.

Personally, I *HATE* being served by another human being; never met anyone so great that they should be served, nor anyone so despicable that they should be subservient to another human.

Do you buy everything online? Because it sure sounds like you have the same thoughts for retail stores and grocery stores. (sigh) There are so many people that work in customer service related fields, it's just enormous. Please clarify the difference between food service and customer service (retail and the like).

An interesting candidate.

http://www.t-worx.com/Default.aspx?alias=www.t-worx.com/brownback
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Brownback

He even has a person against him. Though it looks like just some gutless student (he/she posts anonymously) in political science from the University of Kansas.