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How Many Laws Does It Take To Ban A Lightbulb?
WKMG TV NEWS ^ | 2-9-2007

Posted on 02/09/2007 1:02:19 PM PST by Cagey

EDISON, N.J. -- No disrespect to Thomas Edison, but a New Jersey lawmaker said a lot has changed since Edison invented the light bulb.

Assemblyman Larry Chatzidakis has introduced a bill that calls for the state to switch to energy-saving fluorescent lighting in government buildings over the next three years.

Last month, a California assemblyman announced plans for legislation to ban incandescent bulbs there.

New Jersey is where Edison acquired more than 400 patents for innovations such as the incandescent light bulb, the phonograph and the electric railroad car.

But efficiency is trumping nostalgia.

New Jersey already recommends a switch to compact fluorescent lamps as part of its Clean Energy Program.

The curator of a museum that celebrates Edison in the town that bears his name said the light bulb is an easy target, but even he acknowledged that its star is fading.

Jack Stanley said "that's part of the evolution of all inventions."


TOPICS: Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: electricity; energy; govwatch; lightbulb; newjersey; newjerseylightbulb
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To: albie
"No driving while on a cell phone...."

I make it a point to not drive very much, and I stay off the roads as much as possible. I have a CDL and a lot of road experience.

Driving while on the cell phone is a genuine problem.

Most people are not very good at driving in the first place, and a cell phone turns such folks into an outright menace.

41 posted on 02/09/2007 2:41:09 PM PST by Radix (Al would be gored in a presidential campaign............)
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To: DBrow
LED lights will soon take over from CF anyhow (except in Boston).

I'm sure Shake, Frylock, and Meatwad will come up with something.

42 posted on 02/09/2007 3:08:33 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: AFreeBird
"I'll wait for LED's as well. Not quite there - yet - but soon.
Way less energy than a CF, and you can dim them."

There are dimmable, and 3-way CF bulbs on the market. I have dimmable bulbs in floor lamps.

LED's will probably be a lot better. Flexible OLED lights are probably going to be very popular.
43 posted on 02/09/2007 3:11:55 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Old Professer

Go on: tell 'em how long that bulb has been burning now.

44 posted on 02/09/2007 3:14:12 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: Continental Soldier

I was wondering when somebody would bring that up.

Women especially complain about trying to apply makeup under fluorescent lighting.

In my city the building code requires fluorescent lighting be the "primary" lighting in bathrooms and kitchens. You can't get a permit to remodel otherwise. Obviously no women on the board that made that decision.


45 posted on 02/09/2007 3:16:13 PM PST by Kellis91789
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To: Teacher317
I really like the new bulbs...

I like the new bulbs too; however, only the minis, equivalent to 60 watts, can fit in my overhead fixtures. The non-minis, equivalent to 75W and 100W, are too big for my lamps and fixtures.

46 posted on 02/09/2007 3:18:05 PM PST by JoeGar
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To: Teacher317

Not to ruin a really good rant against overbearing government, but the bill:

"...calls for the state to switch to fluorescent lighting in GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS over the next three years."

Presumably one of the things the government **should** be doing is ensuring it is spending the taxpayers' money in an efficient and responsible manner, yes?

http://www.nj.com/newsflash/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-24/1170972632137660.xml&storylist=jersey


47 posted on 02/09/2007 3:18:45 PM PST by voltaires_zit
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To: Continental Soldier

The good news is that fluorescent bulbs for home use now have far better colour properties than the old tubes. Some are a pretty good match for incandescents, while others are pretty close to daylight. My daylight bulbs are a blessing on dark February mornings :-)

You are correct, however, that as long as you're paying for the electricity then the type of bulb you use is none of the government's business.


48 posted on 02/09/2007 3:45:13 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Calvin Locke

Yeah, I am aware that the notion of leaving the light on to save power is a myth. I do know that the older (1970s-era) fluorescent lamps did have a shorter bulb life if they were cycled frequently but I suspect that the product has improved in that respect. I think the main aspect that makes them unsuitable for refrigerators is the startup time, though.


49 posted on 02/09/2007 3:48:30 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: AFreeBird

My gripe with LED bulbs is actually pretty easy to fix. Most LED Christmas lights run on unrectified AC so they are essentially strobe lights, but they can be stabilized for a few pennies by throwing capacitors in the mix, either in a DC power supply or even building it into the bulb itself.


50 posted on 02/09/2007 3:52:13 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: william clark

You can get three-way and dimmable CFs. The dimmables are pretty useless though.


51 posted on 02/09/2007 3:53:03 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Cagey
Cheese was a surplus commodity in the 80's. It was more cost effective to give it away as part of TEFAP that to pay for its storage.

As for light bulbs, they will probably be handed out as part of some energy assistance program. You and I will be paying for them. :-(

52 posted on 02/09/2007 3:54:37 PM PST by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: Cagey
Its not about efficiency. Efficiency is associated with fascism. Liberals want to tell you how to light up your business and home. They want to take the choice out of your hands. That's what this move is all about. It has nothing to do with energy consevation and everything to do with the government running your life.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

53 posted on 02/09/2007 3:57:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: verity
they will probably be handed out as part of some energy assistance program. You and I will be paying for them. :-(

That's close to what happened here in Ontario, more than once. I remember in the early 1990s Ontario Hydro paid out rebates of $5/bulb. Naturally the retail price of the bulbs increase, on average, by about $5.

54 posted on 02/09/2007 3:57:43 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Cagey; Rastus; albie
We'd all be perfectly safe if we were handcuffed to our beds 24 hours a day with an armed guard outside the house. I vote for that, since I want to be perfectly safe. Now all we need is for some politician to get on the stick with it.

/psychotic rant

55 posted on 02/09/2007 4:00:10 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: goldstategop

I point out, again, that the bill in this story only applies to lights **IN** Government Buildings.

No one can legitimately gripe about that, can they?

But maybe you're still all worked up over the California bill which IS intrusive gobbledygook?


56 posted on 02/09/2007 4:01:30 PM PST by voltaires_zit
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To: Wuli
They could start by offering special baked-goods (with guaranteed next-day delivery) to the trans-fat deficient residents of New York city and "old fashioned" light bulbs to residents of the people's Republic of New Jersey.

You forgot one thing, NY and NJ will place a BIG tax on these to collect revenue just like NY does with cigarettes.

57 posted on 02/09/2007 6:01:30 PM PST by feedback doctor (Mark Sanford - 2008)
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To: andy58-in-nh

106 years.


58 posted on 02/10/2007 7:36:12 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Calpernia

Fascism on the rise, lot of people want to help save us from ourselves...


59 posted on 02/10/2007 8:15:38 AM PST by abovethefray
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To: abovethefray
Fascism on the rise, lot of people want to help save us from ourselves...

Yup, now that they'll be using lights with mercury in them, they will soon push for a recycling program (so more combustion engines to haul them around and more buildings using electricity). Can I claim I have an addiction to incandescent bulbs? A treatment center for addicts is next.

This makes my head hurt....
60 posted on 02/21/2007 12:38:21 AM PST by 4KennewickMan2Invent (I didn't pay attention in school, I was too busy trying to learn something.)
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