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Why The Septuagint Is Superior To The Masoretic Text
6/7/2021 | Its All Over Except...

Posted on 06/07/2021 5:23:12 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...

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To: chuckles

Elsie does that in each post. No reading of the article or even the topic at hand, just lame attempts at “humor”. And his arguments are basically along the lines of “sez you”


161 posted on 06/13/2021 6:06:25 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: chajin; Its All Over Except ...
***So how do we get past the scholarly controversies without discounting them, but recognizing that practically any of the above texts can bring people to Christ because it is the living Spirit that draws the unbeliever through the living Word?***

I think you have summarized my thoughts fairly well. I am inclined to believe that we have the Scriptures that the Holy Spirit wishes us to have. I have studied the MT in great depth - and so find deep Spiritual revelations there. I have cross referenced those discoveries to the Septuagint and found those revelations lacking.

A couple of points 'All Over' sped by. The Masoretes did not do their work in a few years or even in the span of a single lifetime. They had received corrupted and error ridden texts from centuries of copying and they prayed for guidance to cleanse them and try to restore them to God's original intent. Contrary to the poster's position that there are deep differences with the DSS, I have seen many commentators remark on the marvelous compatibility of the two texts.

Another point; all the alternate texts mentioned by 'All Over' are readily available on the www - a marvel in itself. The Bible student is free to read and evaluate all available texts, even the Gnostic Nag Hammadi distractions.

In all spiritual studies the student needs greatly to ask for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. 😇

162 posted on 06/13/2021 7:38:39 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Elsie

You have been dissed ... but consider the source. LOL


163 posted on 06/13/2021 9:08:34 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie

In the beginning...THE WORD that was with God and that was God...and The WORD that was made flesh and dwelt amongst us...When the words get crazy, just thinking about THE WORD MADE FLESH snaps everything back into focus. If words fail us and the argued threads of doctrine become to dense and esoteric to fathom, we need only remember the WORD being made alive in us everyday, renewing our inner men daily...though our outer man perishes. It all comes down to the simple promise our Lord made, makes and will always make...”Lo I am with you always, even unto the end of the Word!”


164 posted on 06/13/2021 12:10:34 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Cronos
Do you agree with that? Mary as the mother of God Jesus is not just a “Catholic idea”

You mentioned this idea came from the Eastern church. I agreed.

That raises the question, what is she the mother of? Do you believe Mary was the Mother of God in His deity, humanity, or both? What precisely are you saying when you say Mary as the mother of God Jesus? Is she the mother of the eternal God?

165 posted on 06/13/2021 12:35:57 PM PDT by HarleyD (Dr E-"There are very few shades of grey.")
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To: Cronos

Huh? While I love reading all the verses that states Christ as the Son of God, we’re talking about Mary being Christ’s mother. Now if you have a verse which shows the disciples worshiping Mary, I’d love to see that.

Our dear beloved Mary was nothing more than another sinner saved by Christ’s love. As such she is accorded every spiritual blessing just like all believers.


166 posted on 06/13/2021 12:43:53 PM PDT by HarleyD (Dr E-"There are very few shades of grey.")
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To: Cronos
Adelphi is used for cousins or close relatives in Deut. 23:7; Neh. 5:7; Jer. 34:9.

You are confusing Greek for Hebrew. I can find nowhere that the term "cousin" is used in the Hebrew text. Jeremiah 32, refers three times to "Hanamel the son of Shallum your uncle is coming" but it never uses a Hebrew word for cousin.

The writers of the New Testament were brought up using the Aramaic equivalent of “brothers” to mean both cousins and sons of the same father—plus other relatives and even non-relatives.

If this were the case then Paul would never have referred to Mark as Barnabus' cousin.

Greek has a separate word for cousin, anepsios, but the translators of the Septuagint used adelphos, even for true cousins.

Which just underscores why one has to go back to the original Greek and not rely upon the Septuagint. If in John 7 and elsewhere the writer was talking about "cousins", then in the original Greek it would have appear as anepsios. I'm sure John would have known the difference.

167 posted on 06/13/2021 1:12:54 PM PDT by HarleyD (Dr E-"There are very few shades of grey.")
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To: Cronos
...her Hod, in her womb.

Masons start out as hod carriers.

168 posted on 06/13/2021 7:11:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
No reading of the article or even the topic at hand, just lame attempts at “humor”.


Aw...  shucks...
 

I guess I could be humorless, but where's the fun in that??


And his arguments are basically along the lines of “sez you”

Now Honey; you KNOW that they are along the lines of, "Sez the Bible."

At least I don't flood the thread with volumes of data from "sez these guys" - good, ol' Early Church Fathers cherry picked writings.

169 posted on 06/13/2021 7:19:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
Elsie does that in each post.

Only after I have exhausted my supply of ad hominins.

170 posted on 06/13/2021 7:21:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

All this rain has vastly increased the abundance of toads in my yard.


171 posted on 06/13/2021 7:22:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mdmathis6
When the words get crazy, just thinking about THE WORD MADE FLESH snaps everything back into focus.

Kinda makes me wonder what the word INCARNATION means.

172 posted on 06/13/2021 7:23:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HarleyD
You are confusing Greek for Hebrew.

HMMMmmm...

Accidently or on purpose??

173 posted on 06/13/2021 7:25:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

They can help decrease the pesky insect population though ...


174 posted on 06/13/2021 7:25:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: HarleyD
Do you believe Mary was the Mother of God in His deity, humanity, or both?

Well, to put it into an idea that folks can understand these days, she was the spool of plastic thread that is the raw source material in a 3D printer.

The software(Holy Spirit) supplies the instructions to the machine(Mary) to create the shape that is desired(Jesus: INCARNATE).


In biological terms, the MAN supplies the instructions (via sperm) that tells the machine(womb) how to create the output(baby).

175 posted on 06/13/2021 7:31:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HarleyD

The man doesn’t supply ALL the instructions; as his design gets modified by the mother’s input as well.


176 posted on 06/13/2021 7:34:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

We know Jesus walked the earth with a body, a behavior mechanism )soul of mind emotions and will) and a spirit. Was that spirit a human spirit into which God placed His Holy Spirit??


177 posted on 06/13/2021 7:40:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

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178 posted on 06/13/2021 7:42:41 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: Elsie; chuckles
I called your posts as "lame attempts at humour" - they aren't in the last bit humorous.

your little digs at chuckles are just "sez you"

Let's see - your post #94 "So; you read Greek; eh?" is a good example

179 posted on 06/14/2021 4:30:16 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: MHGinTN

I have no idea.


180 posted on 06/14/2021 4:41:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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