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Blasphemy in the workplace. (vanity)

Posted on 05/14/2021 2:39:00 AM PDT by LukeL

I just started a job working as a medical scribe and am shocked at the language that is tolerated in the workplace. I assumed that working with doctors, PAs, and RNs that there would be a higher level of professionalism than compared to when I worked at Wal-Mart or KFC. It seems though that it is the exact opposite and that no one can express their frustration without dropping an F-bomb or taking Christ's name in vain. As I am currently an at will employee and on the very bottom the totem pole I feel like I just have to take it. What makes this even worse is that this is a Catholic Hospital and I would have assumed there would be a higher level of conduct.


TOPICS: Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: blasphemy; cursing; medicine; profanity; vanity; workplace
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To: LukeL

Last year I was invited to give a training class for a prospective customer.

When I was done, I was told that they have a policy of clean language on their jobsites. If one of their customers complains of foul language, the job is free and the employee is fired.

They had a competitor of mine out before me and his language sealed them out of the deal.

They are now a strong customer of ours.

Here’s a favorite quote:

Profanity is the effect of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcibly


21 posted on 05/14/2021 5:33:17 AM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

> Blasphemy is different from vulgarity

You got that right! yet a constant stream of vulgarity is discouraging.


22 posted on 05/14/2021 5:50:22 AM PDT by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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To: LukeL

Hang in there and continue your studies in the school of life.

I just said a quick prayer for you.


23 posted on 05/14/2021 5:52:24 AM PDT by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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To: LukeL

I don’t know that any of the “Catholic” hospitals are still Catholic in anything other than name. They certainly are no longer administered or staffed by the religious orders that created the modern concept of hospitals (and universities) in the first place. A decade ago I was arranging surgery in a Catholic hospital and saw Chick Tracts (I think it was “Why is Mary Crying” even) on the desk where patients filled out paperwork. I took a picture and texted it to the Protestant administrator who just happened to be my cousin, she was appalled.

She understood the mission of the hospital extended well beyond medical care and a serious conflict in spiritual expression created a house divided and harmed everyone. Bizarrely the hospital didn’t even have crucifixes in patient rooms until I asked about it (they put up “resurrexifixes” so that was a bit of an own goal), and the secular hospital across town had a full time Catholic priest chaplain while the Catholic hospital did not. They didn’t even have a consultant for Catholic medical ethics. The hospital was Catholic In Name Only.

I tell my kids as they reach high school age that I’d rather hear a thousand f-bombs than one irreverent misuse of the word God. I wish this generation had some variety in its profanities and obscenities, Gen-X did. Of course we also understood boundaries, we certainly tested them but we knew they existed. That’s all gone.


24 posted on 05/14/2021 6:01:07 AM PDT by Legatus (May the zot be with you)
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To: LukeL

So if they don’t do it in front of the patients they contain themself then and know it is wrong.


25 posted on 05/14/2021 6:13:01 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: DoodleBob

Was giving further thought to this on the way to work this morning, first the list St. Paul spells out in Galatians 5, and then Jesus’s action in cleansing the temple.

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery; idolatry and sorcery; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions, and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
-Galatians 5:19-21 NASB

In noting Jesus’ conduct throughout His days present before the eyes in bodily form, He was firm but never given to self-gratifying, pugilistic behavior. His firmness is perfectly rooted in the will of the Holy Trinity. He has not changed.

The types of behaviour witnessed by our beloved poster, as well as many of us, stem from the uncleanness we inherited from Adam and are in no way edifying. Daily I catch myself indulging language unbefitting a Christian, sometimes only in mind, but also in speech.

Repentance and faith look both inward to find only iniquity and outward to the Crucified and Risen One, so that in addressing the sins and weaknesses of others we are cognizant of our own need, and the love whereby Christ Jesus freely forgives, strengthens, and disciplines His children.

When I am in the presence of people given to vulgarity there is no set prescription for a response. It depends on whether my vocation and station in life warrant a rebuke. Even in such cases I often fail to do or say what is right.

LORD, have mercy!


26 posted on 05/14/2021 6:29:44 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audit. No peace.)
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To: DoodleBob

calling people names like “hypocrites,” “brood of vipers,” “liars,” and “wicked. is not vulgar. It is telling the truth and warning them of their possible doom.


27 posted on 05/14/2021 6:33:12 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: LukeL

Gratuitous language about vulgar things is not healthy for the mind. I’ve been guilty of that many times and continue to try to correct myself.

Cursing is evil. Saying anything referring to G-d without a good reason is the ultimate evil. Knowledge about such things requires properly extensive, exclusive study of what many call The Old Testament without being distracted in order to develop a mindset that most people cannot imagine. We human beings are not perfect through our whole lives, but impeccability is a good goal.


28 posted on 05/14/2021 6:46:30 AM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: MurphsLaw

kind of.
I curse, but try not to in front of people I don’t know. Some folks just let it fly.
I’ve never corrected anybody for their speech, including the dreaded N word. That’s their problem, not mine.


29 posted on 05/14/2021 6:51:17 AM PDT by ronniesgal (Hillary wants to be Governor of New York!!)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
*** Name calling when people don’t believe exactly like you do has been the norm for a while everywhere. Differing opinions are not allowed. ***

That is certainly true here on FR. 🙄

30 posted on 05/14/2021 6:57:55 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: LukeL

What you are describing is Hate Speech.

Report it. Anonymously.

If they were dropping the N-Word, they would be fired in an instant. IMO, the N-Word and the F-bomb are both vulgar expression of hatred.

Hate Speech.


31 posted on 05/14/2021 7:00:12 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Actual FR Quote: “I ain’t getting no Covid Vaccine. I’d rather get Covid and DIE before I get a jab.)
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To: cyclotic

“Profanity is the effect of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcibly”

Except numerous studies (including one intended to prove the opposite) show swearing is a sign of intelligence and a robust vocabulary.

https://www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists

https://uproxx.com/life/people-swear-articuate-intelligent/


32 posted on 05/14/2021 7:04:04 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: Jewbacca

Dennis Prager (Prager University) has this take on that commandment. The word usually translated “take” can mean “carry.” We carry the Lord’s name in vain when we claim to be Christian but our behavior says that we are not. The “sermon I see” kind of thing.

Example: The (well known) several large denominations who embrace sexual abominations by clergy and who defend child abuse by clergy.

The idea that religion has any integrity at all is completely destroyed by such behavior.


33 posted on 05/14/2021 7:10:23 AM PDT by NorthStarOkie (You shall know the truth, and the truth will make you mad! Neil Boortz)
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To: sockmonkey

Yes it is. I have been the target of it many times.


34 posted on 05/14/2021 7:11:47 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: TheThirdRuffian

If they really were more intelligent they would be able to express shock and anger with more words than the f-word and the Holy name of Jesus. The other issue I have is that it really shows a lack of professionalism when the first thing you do when leaving a patient’s room is bad mouth them with a string of curse words.


35 posted on 05/14/2021 7:27:02 AM PDT by LukeL
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To: NorthStarOkie

There are too many church leaders more concerned with someone saying “Oh my God” and not concerned with other church leaders getting rich from blasphemous doctrine. Gag on a gnat, swallow a camel


36 posted on 05/14/2021 7:33:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: LukeL

The use of profanity relieves pain, including mental pain.

Being a doctor, especially to a frustrating patient, is difficult and mentally stressful. Ergo, profanity.

Now, is profanity professional? Meh. I don’t care. I’ve been military or defense-related my entire adult life.

Profanity is part of the culture of military, health care, and attorneys.


37 posted on 05/14/2021 8:11:41 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: MHGinTN

We’re the first Christians bud. Please read a history book instead of a Jack Chick tract.


38 posted on 05/14/2021 8:12:51 AM PDT by Texas_Guy
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To: LukeL

Vulgarity is a language tool.

It can be used to get attention quickly to something of importance, but is only effective if it is used rarely.

I suppose it’s better than throwing handfuls of crap at each other like chimpanzees.


39 posted on 05/14/2021 8:18:43 AM PDT by seowulf
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To: DoodleBob
Jesus also teach that He never sinned. Hence at that time, the utterance of such terms was not considered sinful

Yeah, but He's God.

I assume burning Sodom and Gomorrah to ash, or drowning all living things in a flood, would be a sin if done by you or I or Msgr. Pope, but sin and not-sin categories do not encompass the Lord.

40 posted on 05/14/2021 8:21:47 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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