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Sharing goods not communism but pure Christianity, pope says.
Crux ^ | April 11, 2021 | Ines San Martin

Posted on 04/11/2021 1:32:37 PM PDT by Marchmain

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To: Marchmain

The Vatican under the command of Pope Francis is busy rebuking ownership of firearms for personal protection to the cheers of Islamic followers as well as decrying attempting any evangelical conversion of islamists plus suppressing followers of the pre Vatican 2 liturgy form including the latin mass

But when it comes to other forms of mono theistic beliefs such as the One World Abu Dhabi Movement. Francis refuses to say one word disclaiming and decrying what practice adherents of the Islam code Sharia not only claim, but truly believe that God has authorized them to any evil means using force or decption used to convert is justified as well as kill those who refuse to submit to their version of Gods will .
When and where any clergical supporter of homo sexual activity appear they should be confronted by their parishioners present after showing their disgust leave the scene (church) emptying it.

The very least Francis could be doing is raising theological questions on the assertions made in the Islamic codex (which is their code of observance and behavior) known as Sharia, Beginning with this question
http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm
Instead of reaching out to and defending what Judeo/Christian beliefs are. Challenging the claims that Islamist make they are following God’s command when ruthlessly murdering and torturing non believers and destroy their edifices. Parties with suppressors of the faith


41 posted on 04/11/2021 2:02:01 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (AKA Lee J Keslin posting in the hopes comments get passed around )
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To: Marchmain

So home invasion robberies are just an expression of Christian Love.


42 posted on 04/11/2021 2:03:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (No matter what, resist and stop the agenda of blow bidet and hairass the whore)
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To: Nifster

Bingo! Our neighbor got COVID & the wife was having a difficult time with their dog. I went over to digit while she went to church to get it ready for Easter Sunday. My husband set up a dog crate we lent them.

That’s what friends & neighbors do. Not the government.


43 posted on 04/11/2021 2:04:54 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: leaning conservative

Dog sit


44 posted on 04/11/2021 2:05:26 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Let me know when he quotes the Apostle Paul Paul, if you will not work you shall not eat


45 posted on 04/11/2021 2:05:43 PM PDT by bboise
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Dear pope-a-dope: it’s Communism when the gubmint does it

Or Socialism


46 posted on 04/11/2021 2:06:06 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Marchmain

so helping people by giving them our hard earned money, food, clothes etc, so they can continue to commit crimes against our country is godly now?


47 posted on 04/11/2021 2:06:14 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Like Bernie at the kibbutz.


48 posted on 04/11/2021 2:06:36 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: lurk

Exactly


49 posted on 04/11/2021 2:07:22 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Marchmain

oh and btw- the people committing crimes against our country by entering illegally are not poor- they are well fed, have new clothes many of them- and look very well off already- many of them just want to get more ‘free stuff’ from our country- nearly 75% that come here go on welfare of some kind.


50 posted on 04/11/2021 2:08:59 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Marchmain

Early Christians weren’t Communist. They were absolute monarchists. They followed King Jesus.


51 posted on 04/11/2021 2:09:50 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (What if the Lord sent COVID-19 to immunize the world from something more deadly?)
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To: Marchmain
From the link:

Pope Francis on Sunday argued that having received mercy, Jesus’ apostles became merciful themselves, sharing ownership over everything, calling such an arrangement “not communism, but pure Christianity.”

Correct; it was not communism (which denies God), but pure Christianity with apostolic witnesses of Jesus' ministry, death, and resurrection. That is to whom the first church gave the proceeds of the sales of private property. It was completely voluntary, not coerced.

“The Acts of the Apostles relate that ‘no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common.’ This is not communism, but pure Christianity,” he said.

Actually some did claim private ownership, else they would not have had legal title to sell. Not only that, but "no one" could be miscontrued; it only applied to the multitude in Jerusalem (Israelites) who believed (the testimony of the Apostles who were filled with the Holy Spirit) and who were of one heart and of one soul.

So one could view this as a one time occurrence in Jerusalem with a chosen church.
52 posted on 04/11/2021 2:12:05 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Marchmain

Okay, Francis, you and the Catholic church first. Many billions of dollars to parcel out.


53 posted on 04/11/2021 2:15:12 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Marchmain
Pope Francis on Sunday argued that having received mercy, Jesus’ apostles became merciful themselves, sharing ownership over everything, calling such an arrangement “not communism, but pure Christianity.”

I recently read the following from a commentary in reference to the book of Acts:

We must observe that the act of selling was the owners’, as was the act of handing the proceeds to the Apostles. The community had nothing to do with the money till it had been given to them. Further, the distribution was not determined by the rule of equality, but by the ‘need’ of the recipients; and its result was not that all had share and share alike, but that ‘none lacked.’

Christians should share their goods and wealth as the Holy Spirit leads them. This generally means giving to those who cannot help themselves and giving to the furtherance of the gospel.

The Pope seems to make general statements that do not require restraint and discernment provided by the Holy Spirit, which a Christian needs.

If the Pope wishes to apply his pronouncement of “sharing ownership over everything”, without regard to being led by the Holy Spirit, let me suggest the Roman Catholic church sell ALL of its billions of dollars of priceless artwork, artifacts, antiquities, property, etc. Take those proceeds and all its cash and investment instruments and liquidate ALL. …. Then give the proceeds to the poorest people on earth. The Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Nuns and all other religious can then get jobs, live in communes and give all their surplus income to the poor. Isn't this what the Pope is suggesting?? Ohh ... he forgot to tell us that his pronouncement/teaching/suggestion doesn't apply to the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church and its religious.

54 posted on 04/11/2021 2:15:25 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Marchmain

Charity, when led by the Spirit, is the selflessness meant by Christ.

Galatians 5:18–26:

18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21 envy,4 drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.


55 posted on 04/11/2021 2:19:01 PM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: BenLurkin

The pilgrims tried communism their first year and all almost starved to death. William Bradford chronicled it in his book, “Plymouth Plantation”.


56 posted on 04/11/2021 2:22:32 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Marchmain
Pope Francis on Sunday argued that having received mercy, Jesus’ apostles became merciful themselves, sharing ownership over everything, calling such an arrangement “not communism, but pure Christianity.”

B.S.

Pope Francis Says Communism Stole 'the Flag of Christianity'

57 posted on 04/11/2021 2:23:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Pay no attention to the special, armed “sharing police”, they’re not here to compel you share.


58 posted on 04/11/2021 2:23:58 PM PDT by NativeSon ( )
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So, the government taking people’s resources and earnings is “Christian”?

Very disturbing.


59 posted on 04/11/2021 2:25:36 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Marchmain

The pope is welcome to share as much as he wants OF HIS OWN property, but has no right to mine.


60 posted on 04/11/2021 2:27:35 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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