The Scriptures Are Amazing

This article has a few current events, but it is mostly about showing that the Scriptures are amazing.

First, here are four amazing things that happened on the exact day that the Bible said they would happen when Jesus came the first time:

From the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem to the Triumphal Entry of Messiah, there were 173,880 days (69 Weeks of years or 483 years; Dan. 9:25; Neh. 2:1-8). From the Triumphal Entry of Jesus as the Lamb of God (Isa. 53) to the death of Jesus as the Lamb of God on Passover, there were 5 days (Nisan 10 to Nisan 14; John 12:1, 12). From the death of Jesus on Passover to the resurrection of Jesus on the Feast of First Fruits, there were 3 days (Matt. 16:21; 17:23; 20:19). From the resurrection of Jesus on the Feast of First Fruits to the beginning of the Church on Pentecost, there were 50 days (Lev. 23:15-16). No one but God could reveal in writing the exact day that these events would happen before they happened.

Second, here are some amazing facts regarding Bible prophecy (Jesus not only told us to watch for His Second Coming, He also gave us some things to watch for):

Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of a great statue (Dan. 2) is a Gentile timeline from Babylon to the Second Coming and Millennial Kingdom, and history has moved from the top of the head to the beginning of the toes on the statue (near the end of the feet; EU, USMCA, etc.). Jesus told us to watch Israel, and for 1,878 years (70 A.D. to 1948) there was no nation of Israel to watch, but our generation can watch Israel. Jesus said the generation that sees Israel growing will not pass away until everything is fulfilled, and our generation has been watching Israel grow for 72 years (Matt. 24:34). Gabriel told Daniel that the Antichrist will rise to power in a reunited Europe, and Europe has been reunited (the EU; Dan. 9:26). Daniel said Ten kings will rise before the Antichrist appears, and the WEF wants to replace the U.S. with a handful of nations perhaps as soon as 2021 (Dan. 7:7-8, 24). Gabriel said the Tribulation Period will begin when the Antichrist confirms a covenant with many, and it looks like many nations will make a covenant with Israel soon (Dan. 9:27). The world government will be anti-God, and the Democrats left God out of their party platform (Rev. 13:4-6). The world government will reject the Scriptures, and there has been a relentless effort to bring down the heads of the only two nations (Israel and the U.S.) that were founded on the Scriptures. The Antichrist will be supported by a False Prophet, and Pope Francis supports world government and world religion (Rev. 13). God said Russia, Iran, Turkey, and others will attack Israel in the latter days and latter years, and it looks like this could happen soon (Ezek. 38:8, 16). There will be a system that will let everyone on earth see the resurrection of the Two Witnesses and the Second Coming of Jesus, and that system is being put in place by Elon Musk now (Rev. 11:9-12). Capitalism will be done away with under a world government, and there will be a meeting next May to discuss the end of capitalism (Biden supports the end of capitalism). There will be a world government after the Rapture, and the UN plans to have a world government up and running by 2030 (World government is why the effort to remove Trump has been so strong and unrelenting). The Jewish Temple will exist during the Tribulation Period, and the recent peace treaties between Israel, Bahrain and the UAE say all faiths should be allowed to worship on the Temple Mount. Third, it is possible (emphasis on possible) that Peter said the Church will be here 2,000 years.

Peter was a student of the Old Testament, and it is obvious that Peter was familiar with the prophet Joel’s writings (Joel 2:28-29). In the book of Acts, Luke wrote, “And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance” (Acts 2:1-4). A crowd gathered, and some accused Peter and the others of being drunk, “But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy” (Acts 2:13-18). Was Peter talking about 24-hour days, or 1,000-year days? What did Peter mean when he said we are in the last days? Know that it was Peter that said, “Beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day” (II Pet. 3:8). This is partly why some early Church leaders (Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, and others) believed the Church Age would last for 2,000 years (2 God-Days on the Gentile calendar). The 2,000 years are almost up, and our generation is seeing all of the prophecies coming on the scene. Fourth, here are some amazing things that show that the Tribulation Period is shaping up:

The rider on the white horse is the Antichrist, and he will bring in a world government through deceit (Rev. 6:1-2), and the U.S. election could be an effort to bring in a world government through deceit. The rider on the black horse is hyper-inflation and economic collapse (Rev. 6:5-6), and trillion-dollar stimulus packages are leading the U.S. toward hyper-inflation and economic collapse. The rider on the pale horse is global pestilence, hunger and more (Rev. 6:7-8), and the lockdowns are attributed to global pestilence, and they are leading to record levels of hunger. The Antichrist and False Prophet will force everyone to take a Mark (Rev. 13:14-18), and Biden plans to force everyone to wear a mask starting on Jan. 21, 2021, and Bill Gates wants to force everyone to be tattooed (take a mark) when they are vaccinated for Covid. The Antichrist and False Prophet will deny those that refuse to take the Mark the right to buy and sell, and some politicians want to deny those that refuse to be vaccinated the right to buy and sell. The Antichrist and False Prophet will track the buying and selling of everyone on earth, and some politicians have suggested that the government use “contact tracing” to track everyone that tests positive for Covid. Some prophecy teachers believe the Antichrist and False Prophet will establish a cashless society, and some globalists want to establish a digital currency (cashless society). The Antichrist and False Prophet will outlaw freedom of religion, and some politicians are outlawing freedom of religion. Here are two other things that fit into the “For Your Information Category”:

One, here are four things that must happen before the Tribulation Period (do not assume that the last three must happen before the Rapture).

The Rapture (II Thess. 2:5-10). The rise of the Ten Kings (Dan. 7:7-8, 24). The appearance of Elijah as one of the Two Witnesses (Mal. 4:5-6). Confirmation of the covenant with many (Dan. 9:27). Two, here are three things that God said will happen on an exact day in the future:

From Antichrist’s confirmation of the covenant that begins the Tribulation Period to the end of the Tribulation Period and the Second Coming of Jesus, there will be one week of years (7 years on the Jewish calendar) or 2,520 days (Dan. 9:27). From the confirmation of the covenant until the Jews in Judea flee into the wilderness, there will be 1,260 days. From the beginning of Jesus’ kingdom on earth (Millennial reign) to the end of the Millennium, there will be 1,000 years (Rev. 20:4). Now, here are four events with prophetic implications that recently made the news:

One, concerning an economic collapse, some Democrats are proposing a Universal Basic Income (UBI; people that support the government will get a monthly check, but those that do not support the government will not get a monthly check).

It is beginning to look like some politicians (Democrats and Republicans, but mostly Democrats) are using the lockdown with no science behind it on small businesses that are obeying the rules to crush them (employers and employees) and to force them to depend on the government for handouts to control them.

On Dec. 6, 2020, it was reported that the Director of Medicine at Stanford and more than 43,000 learned scientists believe some politicians are creating “a medical police state.”

America’s debt has now topped 27 trillion dollars, and it is unlikely that future generations will be able to pay it back.

Two, in response to my statement that I believe there has been widespread election fraud, I have received two e-mails telling me that Atty. Gen. Bill Barr said the DOJ has not found any fraud.

That is a distortion of what he said, and even if it was accurate, how can we trust the DOJ after the way it has handled the Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden investigations and spied on and trapped Michael Flynn.

While this article was being written, one Republican congressman was accusing the DOJ of hindering the voter fraud investigation.

If citizens are to believe what the DOJ officials say, many of them need to clean up their act.

Because officials in Democrat-run cities and states have allowed criminals to riot, loot and burn without consequences, there is no reason to believe those officials would not allow voter fraud without consequences.

Three, on Dec. 3, 2020, the U.S. Dept. of Defense introduced a vaccination card that people can carry in their wallet to show that they have been vaccinated for Covid.

Four, on Nov. 30, 2020, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former head of the FDA, said 30% of the U.S. population will probably be infected with Covid by the end of 2020.

Please take notice: If the Scriptures are accurate, and they are, that includes everything in them: heaven, hell, only one way to be saved, resurrection of the dead, and more.

Jesus said you must be born again (John 3:7), and the number of prophecy teachers that believe society is running out of time is growing larger and larger.

Finally, God loves you, and if you have not done so, sincerely admit that you are a sinner; believe that Jesus is the virgin-born, sinless Son of God who died for the sins of the world, was buried, and raised from the dead; ask Him to forgive your sins, cleanse you, come into your heart and be your Saviour; then tell someone that you have done this.

We’ve exchanged views, before, and you know my position, so I won’t revisit that discussion. However, your not-Ezekiel status might prompt greater usage of qualifying language: “My study of these matters leads me to believe...”

I think that eschatology is hot enough as a topic that we all ought to exhibit great reticence to go about unequivocally declaring anything other than the Scriptures, themselves. Our particular ideas would be more graciously, and I dare say more appealingly, couched in the clear language of opinion.

Winsom argumens win some arguments.

Will those who have already had COVID19 and recovered still be required to get the vaccine? Shouldn’t they be immune anyway?

I agree with you that receiving a vaccine would not logically be seen as taking the “mark of the Beast”. Like you said, it will be a conscious action that means the taker is willingly worshipping the Beast and pledging fealty to him. It will be something far more sinister than getting a vaccination.

“...also tells us where they will be when the Lamb takes the seven sealed scroll to open it.”

That is a matter of opinion.

It’s your opinion that the 24 Elders in Rev. 5 are a symbolic representation — a category identity, as you call it — of all the Redeemed.

My opinion, basis John NOT indicating that the Elders are to be understood as symbolic, and basis who does the singing in the following verses, is that the 24 Elders are not symbols, or stand-ins, but 24 individual persons.

Certainly, we will find out their identities at some point, by which juncture it’ll be a moot point, and in the meantime it’s not detracting from our Salvation to bandy the ideas about.

So, we ought to be gracious at all points in doing so, and always ready to sever ties to our opinions if God does things different than we expect; taking sober note of “those who are perishing because they refuse to receive the love of the Truth” that we NOT permit stubbornness to land ourselves among them.

The mark of the beast will require worship of the antichrist. No one will be able to take it unknowingly. So far this vaccine is not it and no one should be afraid to take the vaccine for this reason. God would not eternally damn someone without making very clear the choice they were making. I agree however that time is short

I totally agree. But for those who think taking a vaccine is the mark of the beast, how is that worship?

Rev 5:8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying:

“You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
10 And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And we shall reign on the earth.”

11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands,

Of a certainty, by the blood of Christ we are made kings and priests to God; it’s indisputable. Amen, amen, amen! What I am looking for is the plain-stated textual link to the 24 Elders, though.

It seems plain that the implication you’re trying to make is that the 24 Elders stand for us, by virtue of us being made kings and priests to God, but without an explicit text making that same assertion, we go beyond what is written, and that is verboten.

When things in Revelation stand for other things, John the Revelator tells us so; seven lampstands standing for the sevenfold Spirit of God, etc. So far as I can see in the text, John makes no such statement about the 24 Elders, and Rev. 1:6 doesn’t confirm it. Is there a text elsewhere that makes the linkage clear?

You will not see what you have chosen to not see. Like a carp out of water, you are flipping and flopping, back and forth, first the scenes in Revelation are metaphorical then they are expected to be taken as real views without symbolism. What you do not want connected you will refuse to see as connected.

“...first the scenes in Revelation are metaphorical then they are expected to be taken as real views without symbolism.”

You are too kind, but it’s just not so.

My observation is that when John introduces something that is to be understood as a symbol, he says so in plain language except when it’s unmistakably Jesus; “one like a son of man,” or “one like a lamb that had been slain.”

John, introducing the 24 Elders, makes no direct, declaratory statement about them being symbolic, so I don’t feel at liberty to claim that they are. No “flopping back and forth” about it.

I apologize that it seems to rankle you, but when it comes to claims that scripture says this or that, I’m something of a stickler for expecting to see the Scripture state as much plainly in its own behalf. There is a hermeneutical axiom to the effect that, “When the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense.” The inverse is also sound practice: “Absent a plain sense that makes sense, seek a sense that does.”

I’m not a stick in the mud; I’m happy entertaining a hypothetical, but I won’t elevate it to the status of a firm conclusion without clear scriptural support. That could be a single text, or it could be a clearly-linked synthesis of texts, but I must insist that it be clear.

Yes, of course. There were ultimately some 4000 musicians and singers taking care of worship at the Tabernacle. Where is the specific scriptural link between those chosen by the 24 lots in 1 Chron. 25 and the 24 Elders of Revelation 4?

Is it your claim that there’s 24 lots cast choosing 12 men from 24 families, and — oh, hey, look — 24 Elders, so they must be connected?

John introduces the Elders in Rev. 4; the same chapter where he describes the four living creatures. He makes no comment about any of them symbolizing anything. By stark contrast, in v.5 he mentions 7 Lamps burning before The Throne, and takes care to tell us they represent the Seven Spirits (or Seven-fold Spirit) of God.

So, the Throne and the One Who sits on it, the Elders, and the four creatures he introduces as being exactly what he sees them to be.

But the Lamps he tells us are symbolic.

He’s so clear about it that I cannot fathom John would here in this same chapter, upon their first mention, fail to also note that the Elders are symbolic. Since he make no such claim, who am I to presume myself possessed of greater revelation than he had, and declare that they’re symbolic?

I refuse to go there without John’s confirmation.

“I cannot fathom”... are you looking for an escape clause to avoid humbling yourself before the Lord Christ, to follow the simple ABCs of salvation? Or are you such an ‘intellectual’ that faith cannot stand without your approved proofs upon which to trust your immortal soul? Perhaps you would enjoy exchanging with CRONOS. He’s a Preterist and you could have lots of debate. I’ll ping him for you.

What are you talking about?
This isn’t a matter of salvation; it’s a matter of whether or not certain scriptural texts give support to a given claim.

You made a claim.
You’ve cited scripture in support of it, but haven’t explained what details in the cited texts lend support to your claim.
I don’t begrudge you your claim.
I’m simply asking for a clear explanation.
If you will not explain it clearly, why ought I believe it?
I am not so gauche as to infer that you cannot explain, but remain mystified as to why you haven’t.
Yet, rather than explain your argument, you have become insulting.

But I say to you, whoever says to his brother “You fool!” is in danger of Hellfire. Just...don’t.

You have implied that 24 families David chose by lot to serve in the Temple are connected to the 24 Elders introduced in Revelation 4.
Great.
I merely asked that you explain that connection; it’s not at all plain, and John offers no comment on the matter.
You have further claimed that these 24 appointed families are analogou, now, to all the Redeemed in Christ, and that the 24 Elders are the symbolic embodiment of them all.

Wonderful.

Please, do explain how this is known to be so, because John — who typically tells the reader when something is symbolic — does NOT say the 24 Elders are symbolic.

You point-blank asked me “... are you looking for an escape clause to avoid humbling yourself before the Lord Christ, to follow the simple ABCs of salvation?”

How am I to understand that question any OTHER way than you think it’s an issue of salvation?

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