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[Cath Cauc] Pope Francis has pulled the rug out from under the feet of the US bishops
Church Militant ^ | November 12, 2018 | Church Militant

Posted on 11/12/2018 4:02:29 PM PST by ebb tide

Welcome to this special report from the bishops' conference in Baltimore where, moments into the meeting, conference President Cdl. Daniel DiNardo dropped the bombshell that Pope Francis has pulled the rug out from under the feet of the U.S. bishops and ordered them to cancel their expected Thursday vote in what to do about the priestly sex abuse crisis, most of which is homosexual predatory abuse.

DiNardo appeared disturbed by the orders from the Vatican having been given to him at essentially the last minute late last night.

Following that, Papal Nuncio Christophe Pierre got up and essentially said great strides had been made in fighting this problem and the bishops don't really need to involve the laity to any great degree.

That's significant because the bishops were going to vote on two proposals — the second one which was going to seek the establishment of a lay board with investigative powers into the actions of bishops.

Pierre slammed the idea and said it is bishops who run the Church and, in essence, the laity need to pipe down. This action from Rome — again, at the last minute — raises serious questions.

It is no secret that there in Rome and very close to Pope Francis various high-ranking churchmen who are rushing headlong into advancing the homosexual agenda in the Church.

DiNardo appeared disturbed by the orders from the Vatican having been given to him at essentially the last minute late last night.Tweet

Father James Martin has even publicly stated that the Pope is actively surrounding himself with various bishop appointments who are gay-friendly.

The men closest to the Pope — especially Cdl. Maradiaga — have been embroiled in various homosexual or homosexualist controversies themselves. Maradiaga has defended one of his longtime associates and auxiliary bishops in Tegucigalpa, Honduras — a man accused by dozens of seminarians of sexually assaulting or harassing them.

Maradiaga's response to the reports in Catholic social media has been to tell faithful Catholics to shut up and stop gossiping.

Given his recent condemnations of laity decrying the filth in his own archdiocese, speculation is that he may be involved in this latest kiss of death to American bishops who are trying to get to the bottom of this filth — again, the vast majority of which is homosexual in nature.

The bishops were supposed to be here discussing various draft proposals and so forth and then vote on a final document as we said on Thursday.

But now, with that vote forbidden from taking place by Francis — and undoubtedly some of what Abp. Viganò identified as the homosexual current running Rome — whatever the bishops here do with the rest of their time will essentially be meaningless.

There was even some chatter that they should just pack up and go home.

That's is unlikely to happen, at least in meaningful numbers, but this does show the complete disconnect between Rome and the U.S. bishops, the few who want to resolve this crisis and provide some seed of hope for the faithful.

The patience of the laity is at an end.Tweet

When DiNardo was finally given an audience with the Pope in Rome after waiting almost a month, the Pope completely shut him down, saying there would be no investigation of former Cdl. McCarrick and no investigation headed by laity.

DiNardo came back from Rome and tried to put the best possible spin on it, but no one fell for it.

And when you add it to today's total shoot down by the Pope of the whole reason for this meeting, many are taking this as the final sign that either Rome doesn't get it or the homosexual current in the Vatican is exercising its muscle and deliberately preventing the truth from coming out because too many of them would be implicated in it.

Whichever the case, the patience of the laity is at an end. Catholics from all over the country have begun arriving here in Baltimore for tomorrow's Silence Stops Now rally which Church Militant will be live-streaming beginning at 1:30 p.m. ET tomorrow.

Stay tuned to Church Militant for all the latest from here on the ground in Baltimore as confusion rules the day here at the bishops meeting.

Where do we go from here — that's the question none of them have an answer for.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: dictatorpope; francischurch; homos
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And hat-tip to Salvation.

1 posted on 11/12/2018 4:02:29 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Salvation; Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; heterosupremacist; ...

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2 posted on 11/12/2018 4:04:13 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

More great news from our heretic pope


3 posted on 11/12/2018 4:04:42 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: ebb tide

Rotting from within.


4 posted on 11/12/2018 4:08:05 PM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: ebb tide

I swear the World’s Deep State is working together to destroy the USA: The Heretic Pope, the messed up elections, the southern Invasion and probably a lot more I have missed.


5 posted on 11/12/2018 4:12:09 PM PST by madison10
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To: ebb tide

“DiNardo appeared disturbed by the orders.” Aren’t we all? Everyone should be disturbed by the lack of accountability in the large organization in Rome. Oh well. The Lord sees all and takes notes.


6 posted on 11/12/2018 4:21:55 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: ebb tide

Religious equivalent of the Deep State in total control.


7 posted on 11/12/2018 4:21:57 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Stop The Madness. Do Not Respond To Vanity Posts.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
They're crying all the way to the . What, me worry?
8 posted on 11/12/2018 4:23:03 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: ebb tide

Pope Francis better wake up and start to throw the queer priests completely out of the priesthood. That is first!


9 posted on 11/12/2018 4:26:18 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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To: ebb tide

They believe they are untouchable. The DOJ has sent all the dioceses an order to retain their records on the priest sex scandal. What does the Pope think the DOJ is doing this for? Nothing?


10 posted on 11/12/2018 4:26:33 PM PST by zanarchist
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

That is absolutely not going to happen! That’s what this article is saying.


11 posted on 11/12/2018 4:32:42 PM PST by Rosie405
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To: ebb tide

Pray for the Bishops. They can still take action by saying they don’t condone covering up misdeeds of clergy and go from there.


12 posted on 11/12/2018 5:02:25 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The US Bishops don't believe they are are untouchable... they know they can be touched.

If Mr. Whitaker needs proof that there is an organized crime component in this scandal, I think he has it now... the only problem is that most of the current US bishops actually aren't complicit in the covering up... and one bishop that is complicit happens to be a Head of State and Head of Church.

13 posted on 11/12/2018 5:17:41 PM PST by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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Bishop Coyne told CNA that the bishops would also suspend their vote on establishing a third-party reporting system for complaints about episcopal conduct.

The Congregation for Bishops asked for the delay so that bishops around the world can be “on the same page,” and learn from each other, the bishops said. The importance of further precision in canon law was also raised.

Joining Cardinal DiNardo and Bishop Coyne at the news conference was Bishop Timothy Doherty of Lafayette, Indiana.

Cardinal Dinardo said he found Rome’s decision to be “quizzical” and suspected the Congregation for Bishops thought the U.S. bishops might be moving too quickly.

“I’m wondering if they could turn the synodality back on us. My first reaction was: This didn’t seem so synodical; but maybe the Americans weren’t acting so synodically either. But it was quizzical to me when I saw it.”

Cardinal DiNardo: Vatican Directive Came From Congregation for Bishops

The American members of the Congregation for Bishops are Cardinals Blase Cupich of Chicago and Donald Wuerl, archbishop emeritus of Washington.

14 posted on 11/12/2018 5:44:27 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Synodality and collegiality apparently are just empty buzzwords to cover up hyperultramontanist control of bishops from the Vatican.


15 posted on 11/12/2018 5:44:37 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: ebb tide

Me thinks the Pope is a rainbow rump wrangler.


16 posted on 11/12/2018 5:51:41 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: ebb tide
But, but, I thought Frankie wanted to make all the bishops equal in stature to each other, including himself.

Yeah right.

17 posted on 11/12/2018 5:55:42 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: FatherofFive

I’m trying to see how many years we can avoid giving the church a dime without them asking why the money stopped flowing. I cant wait to tell them.


18 posted on 11/12/2018 5:56:01 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: ebb tide

“Where do we go from here — ...”
I’ve already gone there.
Couldm’t be happier.
Saints and martyrs honored, fast and abstenance observed, joyful feast days, beautiful music.
sspx.
Selfish of me I know, but I’m praying for the rest of y’all.


19 posted on 11/12/2018 6:22:49 PM PST by Daffy
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To: ebb tide
Well, so much of the scandals are recent enough in time that...why aren't District Attorneys investigating these criminals, trying them and sending them to prison?

Didn't they come up with a long list of men of the cloth in Pennsylvania that have behaved criminally? If the statute of limitation has run out on ALL of those crimes, that it was a pretty lame investigation.

It seems like District Attorneys don't need Francis' OK to do their jobs.

20 posted on 11/12/2018 6:23:32 PM PST by stevem
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