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The Surprising Reason Why More Americans Are Not Going To Church
The Atlantic via msn ^ | 08-2016

Posted on 08/28/2016 2:41:41 PM PDT by Salvation

The Surprising Reason Why More Americans Are Not Going To Church

The standard narrative of American religious decline goes something like this: A few hundred years ago, European and American intellectuals began doubting the validity of God as an explanatory mechanism for natural life. As science became a more widely accepted method for investigating and understanding the physical world, religion became a less viable way of thinking—not just about medicine and mechanics, but also culture and politics and economics and every other sphere of public life. As the United States became more secular, people slowly began drifting away from faith.

Of course, this tale is not just reductive—it’s arguably inaccurate, in that it seems to capture neither the reasons nor the reality behind contemporary American belief. For one thing, the U.S. is still overwhelmingly religious, despite years of predictions about religion’s demise. A significant number of people who don’t identify with any particular faith group still say they believe in God, and roughly 40 percent pray daily or weekly. While there have been changes in this kind of private belief and practice, the most significant shift has been in the way people publicly practice their faith: Americans, and particularly young Americans, are less likely to attend services or identify with a religious group than they have at any time in recent memory.

If most people haven’t just logicked their way out of believing in God, what’s behind this shift in public religious practice, and what does the shift look like in detail? That’s a big question, one less in search of a straightforward answer than a series of data points and arguments constellated over time. Here’s one: Pew has a new survey out about the way people choose their congregations and attend services. While Americans on the whole are still going to church and other worship services less than they used to, many people are actually going more—and those who are skipping out aren’t necessarily doing it for reasons of belief.

There were at least three fascinating tidbits tucked into the results of the survey. First, people who report going to worship services less frequently now than they used to overwhelmingly say the logistics of getting there are the biggest obstacle.Second, a significant number of people who said they’re not part of any particular religion expressed mistrust of religious institutions, suggesting these organizations’ reputations have something to do with why people are dropping out of public religious participation.

Finally, and perhaps most interestingly, the country seems to be split in half in terms of how often people get to services. Roughly 51 percent of Americans say they go to church or another worship service somewhere between once a month and multiple times per week, while 49 percent said they go rarely or never. But within that 51 percent, more than half of people said they go more often than they used to—in other words, about quarter of Americans  have gotten more active in their religious communities in recent years, not less.

On the other hand, fewer than half of the people who rarely or never go to church said this has been a new decline in the last few years; a greater portion of that group said they’ve always stayed home on Sundays. All of this is a way of saying that, comparatively speaking, there’s more activity happening on the devout side of the spectrum than the drop-out side; this study suggests that even in a time of religion’s public decline, some people are experiencing religious revival.

According to the survey, about one-fifth of Americans now go to religious services a few times a year, but say they used to go a lot more. Roughly half of this group stopped going as often because of what the researchers called “practical issues”: They are too busy, have a crazy work schedule, or describe themselves as “too lazy” to go. Others said they just don’t care about attending services as much as doing other things.

While it’s easy to empathize with the hassle of trying to wake up and rally kids to go sit still for several hours every Sunday morning, this explanation is interesting for a slightly different reason: It suggests that many people view religious services as optional in a way they might not have in the past. Fifty or 60 years ago, churches, in particular, were a center of social and cultural life in America. For many people, that’s still the case, but the survey suggests that many people may be creating their social lives outside of a religious context—or perhaps forgoing that kind of social connection altogether.

The experience of those who are losing their religion shouldn’t obscure those who are finding it.

The sidelining of services may connect to another factor indicated in the survey: Among people who were raised religiously and who fell away from religion in adult life, roughly one-fifth said their dislike of organized religion was the reason. Another 50 percent said they stopped believing in the particular tenets of the faith they were raised in. Insofar as the decline in U.S. religious affiliation is an intellectual or philosophical story, it seems to be this: Fewer people are willing to sign on with the rules and reputations of institutions that promote faith. That doesn’t mean people don’t care about religious ideas or questions—many of those who are unaffiliated with a particular group still consider themselves “religious” or “seeking”—but they might not be as sold on the religious institutions themselves.

The experience of those who are losing their religion shouldn’t obscure the experience of those who are finding it, though. Twenty-seven percent of people in the survey say they’re attending services more often than they did in the past, cutting against the country’s overall decline in religious practice. This was most common among evangelical Protestants, three-quarters of whom say they go to church at least once or twice a month. Half of the people who said they’re going to services more often explained the change in terms of their beliefs: They’ve become more religious; they found that they need God in their life; they’ve gotten more mature as they’ve aged. By contrast, relatively few said they started going to church more often for practical reasons. Belief brings people to worship, it seems, while logistics keep people way.

The survey offers evidence that at least some Americans find worship services less relevant than other things they could be doing with their time, or perhaps they’re too hard to make time for. But the biggest takeaway is the variety of religious experience in America. Just as some people are drifting away from religion, others are moving toward it—and no matter what they might do on Sunday mornings, many people seem to find religious thinking still relevant to their lives.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
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To: Mrs. Don-o
-- he was voicing his own dumb opinion,

Galatians 2:11

When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.


Since this Paul fella ain't no pope; I guess THIS is just OPINION; too!


How'd ol' Pete manage to get CONDEMNED if he was preaching/practicing the TRUTH??

301 posted on 08/29/2016 8:06:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
How about the words?

I like the words in church if they come from the King James Bible or the 1928/1662 Book of Common Prayer. For music, the texts we sing to could be from either of these books or hymnals published before 1960. Settings in original Latin are all right as well (or German if doing Bach or Brahms).

302 posted on 08/29/2016 8:07:28 AM PDT by tellw
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To: esquirette
God’s love and mercy have been preached to the exclusion of our inherent sinfulness and His righteous judgment

The pendulum swings...

303 posted on 08/29/2016 8:07:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tax-chick

True; as it caught my attention!


304 posted on 08/29/2016 8:08:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dp0622

I don’t go to mass as often as I should but my actual faith is stronger now than it ever was before. So I would say this article has a lot of truth to it.


305 posted on 08/29/2016 8:10:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Elsie

Same.

Dishonest clickbait merchants ... (;-)


306 posted on 08/29/2016 8:14:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Talk less. Smile more.)
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To: Elsie
I guess there will be NO murderers in Heaven.

There will be NO unrepentant murderers in Heaven.

307 posted on 08/29/2016 8:22:14 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Our security has been hacked, media and politicians bought off and we're being brainwashed.)
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To: Elsie
So; what ARE Jesus' "commandments"?

Try reading Exodus chapter 20.

308 posted on 08/29/2016 8:25:14 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Our security has been hacked, media and politicians bought off and we're being brainwashed.)
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To: Elsie
Try using ACTUAL scripture instead of just referring obliquely to it

Try reading my post #183 referring to the Ten Commandments. I can make another post on the ceremonial laws if you wish.

309 posted on 08/29/2016 8:26:46 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Our security has been hacked, media and politicians bought off and we're being brainwashed.)
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To: Elsie

Keep in mind that the Eucharistic liturgy is not the only place on earth to encounter the Lord.

But, other than the other sacraments, it’s the only place we know with certainty that the Lord is present, every day.


310 posted on 08/29/2016 8:39:33 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: MHGinTN
Are you ‘doing good works’ to glorify your Catholic self, for eventual salvation on worthiness?

No. I strive to do good works out of love for God to glorify Him, as Matt 5:16 says. When I fail it is the circumstance you describe above so I must actually confess such "good works" since they aren't "good" they are as you describe above which isn't good. What you describe above is a sin of pride, and the Church teaches what you describe above is prideful and therefore wrong.

Or are you already saved and your good works glorify GOD because you are lead by HIS SPIRIT?

Yes. I strive to do this. But fail often. When I fail, I confess such sin and ask for forgiveness.

311 posted on 08/29/2016 8:43:27 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ThunderSleeps
"...Haven’t really found (nor looked for all that hard) an alternative...."

Feel free to join me in the Episcopal church.

We suck, but there's always a ton of booze at every function, so there's that.

312 posted on 08/29/2016 8:48:26 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: ealgeone

“No help as no references there.”

Post 159 included the references. Please read it again. Romans included verses from chapters 4-6, mostly chapter 6.

Or you can cut & paste a verse into Google, and google will bring up the reference. I quoted at reasonable length, but there is no substitute for reading the entire argument of Paul running from Romans 1-8.

We are not under the Law. We died to it in Christ, and in Him we are raised to a new life and a new covenant. Hebrews is another book dealing with these questions.


313 posted on 08/29/2016 8:49:49 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: Mr Rogers; EagleOne

So there are no rules and no laws in your religion?


314 posted on 08/29/2016 8:54:49 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Our security has been hacked, media and politicians bought off and we're being brainwashed.)
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To: BipolarBob

“So there are no rules and no laws in your religion?”

Hebrews 10:

15 And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying,

16
“This is the covenant that I will make with them
after those days, declares the Lord:
I will put my laws on their hearts,
and write them on their minds,”

17 then he adds,

“I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.”

18 Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.

Romans 14:

10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,

“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall confess to God.”

12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.

John 16:

7 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; 10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.


We are not under the Law. The purpose of the Law was to show us our need for grace. We then fall under grace:

“Do not, then, allow sin to establish any power over your mortal bodies in making you give way to your lusts. Nor hand over your organs to be, as it were, weapons of evil for the devil’s purposes. But, like men rescued from certain death, put yourselves in God’s hands as weapons of good for his own purposes. For sin is not meant to be your master—you are no longer living under the Law, but under grace.

15-21 Now, what shall we do? Shall we go on sinning because we have no Law to condemn us any more, but are living under grace? Never! Just think what it would mean. You belong to the power which you choose to obey, whether you choose sin, whose reward is death, or God, obedience to whom means the reward of righteousness. Thank God that you, who were at one time the servants of sin, honestly responded to the impact of Christ’s teaching when you came under its influence. Then, released from the service of sin, you entered the service of righteousness.” - Romans 6

And Romans 8:

“3-4 The Law never succeeded in producing righteousness—the failure was always the weakness of human nature. But God has met this by sending his own Son Jesus Christ to live in that human nature which causes the trouble. And, while Christ was actually taking upon himself the sins of men, God condemned that sinful nature. So that we are able to meet the Law’s requirements, so long as we are living no longer by the dictates of our sinful nature, but in obedience to the promptings of the Spirit.”

Remember what Peter said in Acts 15:

““Men and brothers, you know that from the earliest days God chose me as the one from whose lips the Gentiles should hear the Word and should believe it. Moreover, God who knows men’s inmost thoughts has plainly shown that this is so, for when he had cleansed their hearts though their faith he gave the Holy Spirit to the Gentiles exactly as he did to us. Why then must you now strain the patience of God by trying to put on the shoulders of these disciples a burden which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? Surely the fact is that it is by the grace of the Lord Jesus that we are saved by faith, just as they are!”

12 These words produced absolute silence...”


315 posted on 08/29/2016 9:07:30 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

Believe me, God has blessed me abundantly. Many on this forum would think not, as I have lost a career, a spouse, my credit and at the end of the foreclosure process, will lose my house (short of a financial miracle from Him). He has blessed me abundantly through the people I have met and are in relationship with through my church and the Christian choir I sing in.

An only child and having had a childless marriage, the Lord has recently blessed me with two ‘spiritual chidren’, an 11 year old boy and his six year old sister. He has charged me with helping these kids and their family. It is exiting and a little intimidating, but He is blessing me through all major this. The family is originally from Africa and there is severe dysfunction with in the family dynamics. If I had ‘played it safe’ and not been involved in my church family, I would have missed all of this. He has blessed my through people!

While not many Christians, especially in the West (Christendom), follow the model described in Romans 12 and Acts 2, it truly blesses the soul!


316 posted on 08/29/2016 9:09:22 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Mr Rogers

Excellent response. With that said, the Ten Commandments are still valid and will remain so throughout eternity. Which one of the Ten Commandments would you most like to forget?


317 posted on 08/29/2016 9:59:55 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Our security has been hacked, media and politicians bought off and we're being brainwashed.)
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To: BipolarBob; Elsie
Elsie: So; what are Jesus' commandments?

BipolarBob: Try reading Exodus chapter 20.

I'm not sure that's enough for the NT. Institute in Basic LIfe Principles (IBLP) says there are 49 commandments, And In Mt. 28:20 Jesus syas that the disciples and their progeny are to kee watchfully secure whatsoever He has commanded. What are the commands of Christ? (49) (Click here to see)

Actually, IBLP seems to have missed on, which is from Luke 22:36 ". . . let he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

This kind of sword was a true sidearm, and actually two of the men at the Last Supper were armed. Later that evening Peter actually used one to cut an aggressor's ear off. To be blunt, this is equal to today's disciples being armed with an openly carried or concealed deadly weapon, even in the most intimate of worship gatherings; the purpose being to discourage attacks by harmful indeviduals, be they man or beast. This is not up for negotiation, from the Biblical standpoint.

Of course, we do have uninstructed or misinformed church members who have become infected with hoplophobia by association with irrational unbiblical secular "do-gooders."

318 posted on 08/29/2016 10:06:08 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
I'm not sure that's enough for the NT. Institute in Basic LIfe Principles

Well golly gee, we wouldn't want to disappoint them, would we? But they do have a good list of quotes there.

Jesus says that the disciples and their progeny are to keep watchfully secure whatsoever He has commanded.

And what has Jesus commanded? Who is the Author of the Ten Commandments? Who physically wrote them in stone (the first time not the replacement)? Who communicated them to Moses? I just know you have the answer.

319 posted on 08/29/2016 10:14:35 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Our security has been hacked, media and politicians bought off and we're being brainwashed.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
The family is originally from Africa and there is severe dysfunction with in the family dynamics.

Not picking nits here, but you might consider that "dysfunction" is a conversion offered by psychoheretic practicioners to replace the true Biblical case termed as "given over to sin." There are a lot of other similar secular distentions of what is plainly expressed and dealt with in the Bible.

320 posted on 08/29/2016 10:15:03 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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