Posted on 08/28/2016 2:41:41 PM PDT by Salvation
Galatians 2:11
When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.
Since this Paul fella ain't no pope; I guess THIS is just OPINION; too!
How'd ol' Pete manage to get CONDEMNED if he was preaching/practicing the TRUTH??
I like the words in church if they come from the King James Bible or the 1928/1662 Book of Common Prayer. For music, the texts we sing to could be from either of these books or hymnals published before 1960. Settings in original Latin are all right as well (or German if doing Bach or Brahms).
The pendulum swings...
True; as it caught my attention!
I don’t go to mass as often as I should but my actual faith is stronger now than it ever was before. So I would say this article has a lot of truth to it.
Same.
Dishonest clickbait merchants ... (;-)
There will be NO unrepentant murderers in Heaven.
Try reading Exodus chapter 20.
Try reading my post #183 referring to the Ten Commandments. I can make another post on the ceremonial laws if you wish.
Keep in mind that the Eucharistic liturgy is not the only place on earth to encounter the Lord.
But, other than the other sacraments, it’s the only place we know with certainty that the Lord is present, every day.
No. I strive to do good works out of love for God to glorify Him, as Matt 5:16 says. When I fail it is the circumstance you describe above so I must actually confess such "good works" since they aren't "good" they are as you describe above which isn't good. What you describe above is a sin of pride, and the Church teaches what you describe above is prideful and therefore wrong.
Or are you already saved and your good works glorify GOD because you are lead by HIS SPIRIT?
Yes. I strive to do this. But fail often. When I fail, I confess such sin and ask for forgiveness.
Feel free to join me in the Episcopal church.
We suck, but there's always a ton of booze at every function, so there's that.
“No help as no references there.”
Post 159 included the references. Please read it again. Romans included verses from chapters 4-6, mostly chapter 6.
Or you can cut & paste a verse into Google, and google will bring up the reference. I quoted at reasonable length, but there is no substitute for reading the entire argument of Paul running from Romans 1-8.
We are not under the Law. We died to it in Christ, and in Him we are raised to a new life and a new covenant. Hebrews is another book dealing with these questions.
So there are no rules and no laws in your religion?
“So there are no rules and no laws in your religion?”
Hebrews 10:
15 And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying,
16
This is the covenant that I will make with them
after those days, declares the Lord:
I will put my laws on their hearts,
and write them on their minds,
17 then he adds,
I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.
18 Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.
Romans 14:
10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,
As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.
13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.
John 16:
7 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me; 10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12 I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
We are not under the Law. The purpose of the Law was to show us our need for grace. We then fall under grace:
“Do not, then, allow sin to establish any power over your mortal bodies in making you give way to your lusts. Nor hand over your organs to be, as it were, weapons of evil for the devils purposes. But, like men rescued from certain death, put yourselves in Gods hands as weapons of good for his own purposes. For sin is not meant to be your masteryou are no longer living under the Law, but under grace.
15-21 Now, what shall we do? Shall we go on sinning because we have no Law to condemn us any more, but are living under grace? Never! Just think what it would mean. You belong to the power which you choose to obey, whether you choose sin, whose reward is death, or God, obedience to whom means the reward of righteousness. Thank God that you, who were at one time the servants of sin, honestly responded to the impact of Christs teaching when you came under its influence. Then, released from the service of sin, you entered the service of righteousness.” - Romans 6
And Romans 8:
“3-4 The Law never succeeded in producing righteousnessthe failure was always the weakness of human nature. But God has met this by sending his own Son Jesus Christ to live in that human nature which causes the trouble. And, while Christ was actually taking upon himself the sins of men, God condemned that sinful nature. So that we are able to meet the Laws requirements, so long as we are living no longer by the dictates of our sinful nature, but in obedience to the promptings of the Spirit.”
Remember what Peter said in Acts 15:
“Men and brothers, you know that from the earliest days God chose me as the one from whose lips the Gentiles should hear the Word and should believe it. Moreover, God who knows mens inmost thoughts has plainly shown that this is so, for when he had cleansed their hearts though their faith he gave the Holy Spirit to the Gentiles exactly as he did to us. Why then must you now strain the patience of God by trying to put on the shoulders of these disciples a burden which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? Surely the fact is that it is by the grace of the Lord Jesus that we are saved by faith, just as they are!
12 These words produced absolute silence...”
Believe me, God has blessed me abundantly. Many on this forum would think not, as I have lost a career, a spouse, my credit and at the end of the foreclosure process, will lose my house (short of a financial miracle from Him). He has blessed me abundantly through the people I have met and are in relationship with through my church and the Christian choir I sing in.
An only child and having had a childless marriage, the Lord has recently blessed me with two ‘spiritual chidren’, an 11 year old boy and his six year old sister. He has charged me with helping these kids and their family. It is exiting and a little intimidating, but He is blessing me through all major this. The family is originally from Africa and there is severe dysfunction with in the family dynamics. If I had ‘played it safe’ and not been involved in my church family, I would have missed all of this. He has blessed my through people!
While not many Christians, especially in the West (Christendom), follow the model described in Romans 12 and Acts 2, it truly blesses the soul!
Excellent response. With that said, the Ten Commandments are still valid and will remain so throughout eternity. Which one of the Ten Commandments would you most like to forget?
BipolarBob: Try reading Exodus chapter 20.
I'm not sure that's enough for the NT. Institute in Basic LIfe Principles (IBLP) says there are 49 commandments, And In Mt. 28:20 Jesus syas that the disciples and their progeny are to kee watchfully secure whatsoever He has commanded. What are the commands of Christ? (49) (Click here to see)
Actually, IBLP seems to have missed on, which is from Luke 22:36 ". . . let he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
This kind of sword was a true sidearm, and actually two of the men at the Last Supper were armed. Later that evening Peter actually used one to cut an aggressor's ear off. To be blunt, this is equal to today's disciples being armed with an openly carried or concealed deadly weapon, even in the most intimate of worship gatherings; the purpose being to discourage attacks by harmful indeviduals, be they man or beast. This is not up for negotiation, from the Biblical standpoint.
Of course, we do have uninstructed or misinformed church members who have become infected with hoplophobia by association with irrational unbiblical secular "do-gooders."
Well golly gee, we wouldn't want to disappoint them, would we? But they do have a good list of quotes there.
Jesus says that the disciples and their progeny are to keep watchfully secure whatsoever He has commanded.
And what has Jesus commanded? Who is the Author of the Ten Commandments? Who physically wrote them in stone (the first time not the replacement)? Who communicated them to Moses? I just know you have the answer.
Not picking nits here, but you might consider that "dysfunction" is a conversion offered by psychoheretic practicioners to replace the true Biblical case termed as "given over to sin." There are a lot of other similar secular distentions of what is plainly expressed and dealt with in the Bible.
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