Posted on 05/21/2016 3:55:30 AM PDT by crazylibertarian
Dont you know that marxism infiltrated the Catholic Church in the 1940’s?
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That is a good attitude to have, I think.
Sorry, Catholics, but your present Pope has proven by his bizarre remarks that he is a nut case.
He is not helping your cause.
“Not anymore Your Eminence. Sadly the Chair of Peter is visited with a worldly man, consumed with politics and left wing agendas.”
Read Sheen’s quote again. Where did he mention “Chair of Peter”? The Church is still the Church and still hated because it’s the Church. Popes come and go. This one will die and be replaced like all the previous popes. And the Church will still be the Church. And still hated.
Behind door #1 we have Fulton J Sheen , Prince of the Church
Behind door #2 we have Wladziu Valentino Liberace, a Princely Pianist.
As you can see from this atypical video of Fulton Sheen, “Prince of the Church” is in full regalia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwX3yyspYA4
On to Wladziu Liberace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dioRwB4RvrQ
http://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/686671.html
I have to report that Mr. Liberace, like “Windstarke Fuenf” is about the most that man can take. But he is not a drink. He is Yearning Windstrength Five. He is the summit of sex—Masculine, Feminine and Neuter. Everything that He, She and It can ever want.
I have spoken to sad but kindly men on this newspaper who have met every celebrity arriving from the United States for the past thirty years. They all say that this deadly, winking, sniggering, snuggling, chromium-plated, scent-impregnated, luminous, quivering, giggling, fruit-flavored, mincing, ice-covered heap of mother love has had the biggest reception and impact on London since Charlie Chaplin arrived at the same station, Waterloo, on September 12, 1921.
This appalling man—and I use the word appalling in no other than its true sense of terrifying—has hit this country in a way that is as violent as Churchill receiving the cheers on V-E Day. He reeks with emetic language that can only make grown men long for a quiet corner, an aspidistra, a handkerchief, and the old heave-ho. Without doubt, he is the biggest sentimental vomit of all time.
Slobbering over his mother, winking at his brother, and counting the cash at every second, this superb piece of calculating candy-floss has an answer for every situation. Nobody since Aimee Semple MacPherson has purveyed a bigger, richer and more varied slag-heap of lilac-covered hokum. Nobody anywhere ever made so much money out of high speed piano playing with the ghost of Chopin gibbering at every note.
There must be something wrong with us that our teenagers longing for sex and our middle-aged matrons fed up with sex alike should fall for such a sugary mountain of jingling claptrap wrapped up in such a preposterous clown.
While the trial took many ducks and turns, one phrase in the article dominated the proceedings from both sides. This was Conner’s identification of the pianist as “the summit of sex—Masculine, Feminine and Neuter. Everything that He, She, and It could ever want”
You need to understand the Catholic Church is run similar to a monarchy but it stands alone as a papal monarchy and I don’t buy that-& most pple aren’t even aware of this.
“Prince of the Church”?
hell, Sheen couldn’t even bang out a tune on a washboard compared to his secular counterpart Liberace.
Both were born in 1919 & both had strong religious backgrounds. Sheen never came out of the closet & used his Prince of the Church robes to disguise the hideousness of his own sexuality and conscience.
Suppose Sheen had ever confessed his homosexuality?
Then he would be no longer a Prince of the Church and sent into exile. TV rescued this creep & gave him a outlet for his covert flamboyancy & cape twirling with moronic “chalk talks.
On the other hand we have “Lee” Liberace who only partially opened his own closet door. He was a mama’s boy just like Sheen only he was never a Prince of the Church. He was his own king owning his outfits, his outlandish jewelry, the tableaux he set in the entertainment world-and he and Sheen were the original capetwirlers.
You don’t want to ever read the coroner’s report on that Molly- named Liberace, it was sickening—anal fissures & all
I’m sick & tired of the LGBT agenda we have today & having it shoved in my face at every turn. I’m sick & tired of hearing how their issues dominate the news cycle.
I’m sick & tired of all the crap/shite/& whatever you want to call it- IMMorALITY? , yes, & does exist within the Catholic Church and even then when Fulton Sheen came into his own as a public persona which is totally sickening to me because ...there are so many people who buy into the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church it’s not funny anymore.
There now, I’ve said it all.
Many of his remarks have bothered me also but he is infallible only when speaking on matters of faith.
Good for you!!! Bravo, well said. And welcome home.
The faithful remnant who remain don’t need to be ridiculed, removed and endlessly criticized by the Bishop of Rome. That’s my point. I understand your point...John Paul could back from the dead and the Church would still be attacked.
“The faithful remnant who remain don’t need to be ridiculed, removed and endlessly criticized by the Bishop of Rome.”
“If you are insulted for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you.” (1 Peter 4:14)
If the faithful remnant is “ridiculed, removed and endlessly criticized” BY ANYONE it only adds to the glory of God.
So, yeah, we need it in that sense.
I’m not confusing the man with the Church at all. I not just talking about the Pope. I’m talking about the the College of Cardinals as a whole, the Synod, the US Council of Bishops, Cardinal Dolan etc.. All of these people and entities are so closely aligned with the Democratic Party it nauseates me. Why did it take the Little Sisters of the Poor to stand up to Obama? Why didn’t Francis do it or even Notre Dame? The pope, the cardinals and bishops are in bed with the world. Cardinal Sheen lived in a time when the Pope, Cardinals, Bishops and Catholic Universities stood up to power and fought abortion, fought gays marching in the St. Patrick’s Day Parade, were against illegal immigration. When did borders, passports and visas become unchristian?
N o one is forcing you to either stay or leave the Catholic Church. If you feel that strongly you may look in the yellow pages and see if you can find one more to your liking. If you are unable to find one that suits your needs you always can start your own.
Well, it seems that many RCs believe that by posting negative things about the non-pope Luther that this is a real argument against evangelical faith. Yet RC sanctioned teaching (emp. mine) is that,
It follows that the Church is essentially an unequal society, that is, a society comprising two categories of per sons, the Pastors and the flock...the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors. - VEHEMENTER NOS, an Encyclical of Pope Pius X promulgated on February 11, 1906.
“All that we must do [as must be patent enough now] is to submit our judgment and conform our beliefs to the authority Almighty God has set up on earth to teach us; this, and nothing else.”
“Absolute, immediate, and unfaltering submission to the teaching of God's Church on matters of faith and morals-----this is what all must give..”
“The Vicar of Christ is the Vicar of God; to us the voice of the Pope is the voice of God. This, too, is why Catholics would never dream of calling in question the utterance of a priest in expounding Christian doctrine according to the teaching of the Church;”
“He is as sure of a truth when declared by the Catholic Church as he would be if he saw Jesus Christ standing before him and heard Him declaring it with His Own Divine lips.”
“..our act of confidence and of blind obedience is highly honoring to Almighty God,..” —“Henry G. Graham, "What Faith Really Means", (Nihil Obstat:C. SCHUT, S. T.D., Censor Deputatus, Imprimatur: EDM. CANONICUS SURMONT, D.D.,Vicarius Generalis. WESTMONASTERII, Die 30 Septembris, 1914 )]
"The intolerance of the Church toward error, the natural position of one who is the custodian of truth, her only reasonable attitude makes her forbid her children to read or to listen to heretical controversy, or to endeavor to discover religious truths by examining both sides of the question. This places the Catholic in a position whereby he must stand aloof from all manner of doctrinal teaching other than that delivered by his Church through her accredited ministers."
The reason of this stand of his is that, for him, there can be no two sides to a question which for him is settled; for him, there is no seeking after the truth: he possesses it in its fulness, as far as God and religion are concerned. His Church gives him all there is to be had; all else is counterfeit... (John H. Stapleton, Explanation of Catholic Morals, Chapters XIX, XXIII. the consistent believer (1904); Nihil Obstat. Remy Lafort, Censor Librorum. Imprimatur, John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York )
...no matter what be done the believer cannot believe in the Bible nor find in it the object of his faith until he has previously made an act of faith in the intermediary authorities..." - Catholic Encyclopedia>Tradition and Living Magisterium; http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15006b.htm
...when we appeal to the Scriptures for proof of the Church's infallible authority we appeal to them merely as reliable historical sources... - Catholic Encyclopedia>Infallibility; http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07790a.htm
—in all cases there is a margin left for the exercise of faith in the word of the Church. He who believes the dogmas of the Church only because he has reasoned them out of History, is scarcely a Catholic......in all cases the immediate motive in the mind of a Catholic for his reception of them is, not that they are proved to him by Reason or by History, but because Revelation has declared them by means of that high ecclesiastical Magisterium which is their legitimate exponent.” — John Henry Newman, “A Letter Addressed to the Duke of Norfolk on Occasion of Mr. Gladstone's Recent Expostulation.” 8. The Vatican Council lhttp://www.newmanreader.org/works/anglicans/volume2/gladstone/section8.html
It was the charge of the Reformers that the Catholic doctrines were not primitive, and their pretension was to revert to antiquity. But the appeal to antiquity is both a treason and a heresy. It is a treason because it rejects the Divine voice of the Church at this hour, and a heresy because it denies that voice to be Divine... I may say in strict truth that the Church has no antiquity....Primitive and modern are predicates, not of truth, but of ourselves...The only Divine evidence to us of what was primitive is the witness and voice of the Church at this hour. . — Dr. Henry Edward Cardinal Manning, Archbishop of Westminster, The Temporal Mission of the Holy Ghost: Or Reason and Revelation (New York: J.P. Kenedy & Sons, originally written 1865, reprinted with no date), pp. 227-228.
20. Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent , since in writing such Letters the Popes do not exercise the supreme power of their Teaching Authority. For these matters are taught with the ordinary teaching authority, of which it is true to say: "He who heareth you, heareth me";[3] and generally what is expounded and inculcated in Encyclical Letters already for other reasons appertains to Catholic doctrine. But if the Supreme Pontiffs in their official documents purposely pass judgment on a matter up to that time under dispute, it is obvious that that matter, according to the mind and will of the Pontiffs, cannot be any longer considered a question open to discussion among theologians. - PIUS XII, HUMANI GENERI, August 1950; http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis.html
The "Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church" (2005) states,
80. In the Church’s social doctrine the Magisterium is at work in all its various components and expressions. … Insofar as it is part of the Church’s moral teaching, the Church’s social doctrine has the same dignity and authority as her moral teaching. It is authentic Magisterium, which obligates the faithful to adhere to it. - http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html
Pope Francis' Encyclical, Laudato Si:
It is my hope that this Encyclical Letter, which is now added to the body of the Church’s social teaching...
PIUS XI;
it is quite foreign to everyone bearing the name of a Christian to trust his own mental powers with such pride as to agree only with those things which he can examine from their inner nature, and to imagine that the Church, sent by God to teach and guide all nations, is not conversant with present affairs and circumstances; or even that they must obey only in those matters which she has decreed by solemn definition as though her other decisions might be presumed to be false or putting forward insufficient motive for truth and honesty. Quite to the contrary, a characteristic of all true followers of Christ, lettered or unlettered, is to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff, who is himself guided by Jesus Christ Our Lord. - CASTI CONNUBII, ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS XI; http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_31121930_casti-connubii.html
And according to SSPV sources, arguing against simply "resist but recognize" the pontiff:
To the shepherds alone was given all power to teach, to judge, to direct; on the faithful was imposed the duty of following their teaching, of submitting with docility to their judgment, and of allowing themselves to be governed, corrected, and guided by them in the way of salvation.
if it should happen that those who have no right to do so should attribute authority to themselves, if they presume to become judges and teachers, if inferiors in the government of the universal Church attempt or try to exert an influence different from that of the supreme authority, there follows a reversal of the true order, many minds are thrown into confusion, and souls leave the right path...
Similarly, it is to give proof of a submission which is far from sincere to set up some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them; and in some ways they resemble those who, on receiving a condemnation, would wish to appeal to a future council, or to a Pope who is better informed.....
But obedience must not limit itself to matters which touch the faith: its sphere is much more vast: it extends to all matters which the episcopal power embraces ...
when we love the Pope, there are no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go, and in what things he is to be obeyed ; when we love the Pope, we do not say that he has not spoken clearly enough, almost as if he were forced to repeat to the ear of each one the will clearly expressed so many times not only in person, but with letters and other public documents ; we do not place his orders in doubt, adding the facile pretext of those unwilling to obey – that it is not the Pope who commands, but those who surround him; we do not limit the field in which he might and must exercise his authority ; we do not set above the authority of the Pope that of other persons, however learned, who dissent from the Pope, who, even though learned, are not holy, because whoever is holy cannot dissent from the Pope. (Pope Saint Pius X, Allocution Vi ringrazio to priests on the 50th anniversary of the Apostolic Union, November 18, 1912, as found at: (“Love the Pope! ” – no ifs, and no buts: For Bishops, priests, and faithful, Saint Pius X explains what loving the Pope really entails.)- http://christorchaos.com/?q=content/choosing-ignore-pope-leo-xiii-and-pope-saint-pius-x (Pope Saint Pius X, Allocution Vi ringrazio to priests on the 50th anniversary of the Apostolic Union, November 18, 1912, as found at: (“Love the Pope! ” – no ifs, and no buts: For Bishops, priests, and faithful, Saint Pius X explains what loving the Pope really entails.)- http://christorchaos.com/?q=content/choosing-ignore-pope-leo-xiii-and-pope-saint-pius-x
However, the real reason why you should leave the church of Rome, an admixture of largely liberal souls you must treat as members as Rome does in life and in death, is because she sadly stands in critical contrast to the NT church.
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."
--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
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