Yeah...
...it'll just fall from the sky!!
Posted on 03/24/2015 8:06:07 AM PDT by RnMomof7
I appreciate your response, and i also wondered if that sentence was being understood correctly, yet in any case using this or like texts to support Joe Smiths occultic visions is specious and desperate.
That’s not going to work for you af_vet_1981. The “Word” became flesh having taken on a fleshly form from Mary but the “Word” was with God and was God before taking that fleshly body via Mary. Jesus said “before Abraham was I am”. That’s long before Mary. The only thing that originated with Mary was His flesh.
Mary is the originator of His human body and not His God nature.
This is true. Jesus did not derive His divinity from His mother. But this did not make her any less His mother.
If I may refer you to Luke 2:41-52, when the 12 year old Jesus went to Jerusalem with His parents, Jesus tarried as His parents returned, and when they found Him not, they turned back to Jerusalem seeking Him. I’m sure you know this story. When they found Him in the temple, “they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.” And he said unto them, “How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?”
Was this not Jesus speaking in His divinity? Yet this divine Jesus “went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.”
Did you actually read the Scripture I posted from Matthew Chapter 1?
Even if you did read it, it is evident from your responses that you ignored that Scripture and what it says.
My answer to you is that I am in agreement with what that particular passage of Scripture (inspired by the Spirit of Truth) says in plain-enough English.
The conniving that went into the wording of your mini-Inquisition demand frees me from owing you a yes or a nay to your silly trickily-worded question.
What part of “don’t put words into the Holy Spirit’s mouth” do you not understand. Or do you not think the Holy Spirit knew what He was doing by not calling her the “mother of God”?
Do you deny Mary is the mother of Immanuel ?
Vet wins this thread!
What words did the Holy Spirit use to describe Mary? Mother of Jesus or mother of God? Do you think He was mistaken on His word choice?
We have a new keyword abuser! - or should I say an old one, since I've also been the subject of that keyword for nearly a decade.
A Jewish cult music lover?
Or a deep thing of satan?
Mean Old Anti-Catholic B?
Mary became pregnant...She conceived a baby...The question is: what did Mary contribute to the conception of THAT baby, or any baby???
The bible says we all have a body, a soul, and a spirit...
1Th_5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
So YOU were born with a body, a soul and a spirit...The question is: how much of your existance did your mother contribute to your conception...All of it???
Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
It should be clear to any one who will bother to read the bible that a man's make-up is never 100% human (as we understand humans)...
Speaking of death:
Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
So, it ought to be REALLY obvious even in human creation the human mother does not contribute everything needed for the life of the baby...It is true in your life and the life of Jesus as well...
And the 'soul', that's another story altogether...
While the word conceive means pregnant, another meaning of conceive means:
to cause to begin...
So while Mary was the cause for the body of Jesus to begin, she certainly was not the cause of the spirit which inhabited Jesus...Scripture shows us that...
Many people connect the 'spirit' of man to the nature of man...
At any rate, we know that the spirit of man comes from God, not our mothers...The Divine spirt of Jesus we also know came from God, not Mary...Mary did not cause the Divine Spirit to begin...The Holy Spirit was responsible for that...
Therefore, Mary was not the conceiver of that Divine Spirit...Mary, as other mothers was the conceiver of the body and the organs...
When Jesus died on the Cross, the contribution that Mary made to the conception and birth of Jesus, died...The spirit went to heaven and the soul hung around for the next mission...
Jesus shed his earthly body which wasn't fit for heaven and ultimately waited for that corrupted piece of meat to be changed into a heavenly body...
Of course your religion has a different take on it...But based on what??? God's scripture??? Nope...Based on man's failed wisdom...I'll go with the scriptures...
Makes more sense, for male and female posters.
So you are implying that there was no bodily resurrection much like certain cults teach? His body did not come forth from the tomb, it maybe dissolved into gasses or something?
Supporting the concept STILL doesn't place the PHRASE: Mother of GOD into the Scriptures.
Yeah...
...it'll just fall from the sky!!
Logic 102?
To which I would reply...
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