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Queens of Heaven. Mary and Kuantan Yin
1/24/15 | Self

Posted on 01/24/2015 4:16:35 PM PST by ifinnegan

Here are artistic representations of two goddesses who are considered the Queen of Heaven and Goddesses. 

The Buddhist/Taoist Kuan Yin (or Guan Yin) (觀音)

And

The Catholic depiction of Mary

Note the similarities in representation. 

This relates to a thread last week on the leftover, or accretional pagan beliefs or rituals that are still present in the Catholic church. 

The Goddess of Mercy is a universal idol/icon in pagan belief systems. 


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: buddhism; catholicism; guanyin; mary
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I think these similarities are pretty fascinating.

The Mother Goddess is a universal pagan belief and the way Mary has been morphed in to another manifestation of this sort of idolatry is not surprising.

1 posted on 01/24/2015 4:16:35 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
The first line should be:

Here are artistic representations of two goddesses who are considered the Queen of Heaven and Goddesses of mercy.

2 posted on 01/24/2015 4:18:18 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

What is real: “Blessed Art Thou Among Women,” the other is a pagan belief.


3 posted on 01/24/2015 4:23:25 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Yah, shows the devil is very slick in manufacturing counterfeits.


4 posted on 01/24/2015 4:24:31 PM PST by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: ifinnegan
"Here are artistic representations of two goddesses who are considered the Queen of Heaven and Goddesses."

Mary is not a goddess, and do Catholics consider her to be so. I award you no points.

5 posted on 01/24/2015 4:30:25 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
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6 posted on 01/24/2015 4:32:08 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: ifinnegan

Oh, my gosh, yes, they’re both WOMEN! That’s a shocker.

Once again, Protestant anti-Catholics go out of their way to prove anti-Catholicism is a mental illness.


7 posted on 01/24/2015 4:32:49 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: 50sDad

“Yah, shows the devil is very slick in manufacturing counterfeits.”

Yeah, he did create Protestantism after all as a counterfeit of real Christianity.


8 posted on 01/24/2015 4:34:19 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Mary is not a goddess, nor Queen of Heaven, yes.

But she is considered these things by some.

I refer you to another thread of Catholic apologia that inspired this post by me.

That thread, “Mary Matters” described her like this::

“her immaculate conception, perpetual virginity, assumption into heaven, her Queenship, and her role in God’s plan of salvation as Co-redemptrix”

Those are properties of a goddess.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3250321/posts


9 posted on 01/24/2015 4:36:23 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: vladimir998

I am not anti-Catholic.

But you seem to be anti-Protestant.


10 posted on 01/24/2015 4:38:16 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Mary is not a goddess. You start with a flawed premise. It’s contentions like yours that give rise to the saying, “garbage in, garbage out.”


11 posted on 01/24/2015 4:38:54 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: vladimir998

Well he most definitely didn’t create the catholic church.


12 posted on 01/24/2015 4:38:58 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: ifinnegan

Interesting. Thanks for the post.


13 posted on 01/24/2015 4:41:00 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Steelfish

“What is real: “Blessed Art Thou Among Women,” the other is a pagan belief.”

Yes. I think the way Mary has morphed in to the traditional Goddess of Mercy has had some benefit for the cause of Christ in that the ease of transition for pagan cultures to move over to Christianity is strengthened a bit in that there is a familiarity there in this non-Biblical, but emotionally comforting, aspect of how Mary is presented.

But the drawback is obvious as well in that a false theology and misdirected focus away from Christ can become entrenched and be a stumbling block for believers who are Catholic.


14 posted on 01/24/2015 4:43:15 PM PST by ifinnegan
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" “her immaculate conception, perpetual virginity, assumption into heaven, her Queenship, and her role in God’s plan of salvation as Co-redemptrix” "

None of these are the properties of a goddess in the Christian context because none of it was granted her by or for her own merit. God alone granted and grants Mary her role in His plan of salvation.

16 posted on 01/24/2015 4:44:36 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: vladimir998

> Yeah, he did create Protestantism after all as a
> counterfeit of real Christianity.

“Real Christianity” is probably best defined in the Sermon on the Mount.

Nothing in there about torturing, burning, beheading and drowning “heretics”, or forbidding the people to have the Scriptures in their own language.

The Roman Church tortured and murdered professing Christians just as vigorously as any emperor in the preexisting Roman Empire. Whether you believe their profession was genuine or gave them a relationship with Christ is immaterial.

Now, as far as I can tell, the church in Europe hasn’t done anything like this for about 300 years.

The biggest blow for freedom was struck by the Pilgrims when they left brutal Europe for the New World and started the movement that would give us genuine Freedom of Worship.


17 posted on 01/24/2015 4:44:46 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: mountn man

“Well he most definitely didn’t create the catholic church.”

I agree. The devil most definitely did not create the Catholic Church. God did.


18 posted on 01/24/2015 4:45:06 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Joe 6-pack

See my post nine.

You are correct that Mary is not a goddess.

But she is presented as a goddess by some.

See this example: “her immaculate conception, perpetual virginity, assumption into heaven, her Queenship, and her role in God’s plan of salvation as Co-redemptrix”

Those are properties of a goddess.


19 posted on 01/24/2015 4:45:27 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Just your basic instincts: how many do you think this will convert?


20 posted on 01/24/2015 4:47:58 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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