Posted on 12/22/2014 6:17:46 AM PST by marshmallow
(LWI) Rev. Martin Junge, General Secretary of The Lutheran World Federation (LWF) says relations between the Lutheran and Catholic churches have reached an epoch-making turning-point.
Speaking during a panel discussion, held 18 December, in the Lutheran church in Rome, Junge emphasized that the relationship between Lutherans and Catholics was being transformed from conflict to communion. Precisely in a world in which religion and faith are regularly portrayed and perceived as trouble makers, he said it was a phenomenal testimony that the Lutheran and Roman Catholic churches continued to move towards a profound communion that frees us to serve God and the world.
Alongside Junge on the panel were, the president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (PCPCU) Kurt Cardinal Koch, the Catholic representative of the United Evangelical Lutheran Church of Germany Bishop Karl-Hinrich Manzke, and the chairperson of the Ecumenism Commission of the German Episcopal Conference Bishop Gerhard Feige.
Junge and Koch took the opportunity to announce plans for a common liturgical guide in connection with the 500th anniversary of the Reformation in 2017, of which publication is scheduled for 2015. Looking towards 2017, the Lutheran - Roman Catholic material is intended to enable churches all over the world to review the 500 years of Reformation. The guide will follow on from the dialogue document From Conflict to Communion published by both partners in 2013, and transpose it into liturgical acts. The material will reflect the structure of this document with its triple form of penitence for the wounds mutually inflicted; joy at the insights and dimensions of the Reformation; and hope for unity.
The panel also discussed the question of what exactly was to be commemorated in 2017. Not church division, nor the 500th anniversary of a church and certainly not any heroic actions, Feige was.......
(Excerpt) Read more at lutheranworld.org ...
Yup! But as they say, and what might be most apropos here, “The devil is in the details!”
Catholics and lib Lutherans, great combination.
**The panelists agreed on the question of a joint act of repentance between Lutherans and Catholics. I think it would be a fine thing if such a symbolic act could take place between Catholics and Lutherans, said Koch. However, it would not be about unilateral mistakes or demands for penitence. The Catholic side is not telling the Lutherans that they should repent, underscored Feige. Both sides shared a burden of guilt, Koch and Feige agreed. **
Quite interesting.
“...The material will reflect the structure of this document with its triple form of penitence for the wounds mutually inflicted; joy at the insights and dimensions of the Reformation; and hope for unity. ...”
“... The Catholic side is not telling the Lutherans that they should repent, underscored Feige. Both sides shared a burden of guilt,Koch and Feige agreed. ... “
Interesting indeed.
Socialists who oppose God have much in common.
Catholics don’t oppose God. Who are you talking about here?
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If ANYONE can deal with that, it's the churches involved. Martin Luther WAS "Father Martin Luther," a very erudite Catholic priest and theologian in his day. He was from the Order of Saint Augustine. That is what the OSA after his name means.
From Google: Martin Luther, OSA, was a German friar, Catholic priest, professor of theology and seminal figure of the 16th-century movement in Christianity.
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I'm all for it. This schism only happened 500 years ago and that, in God's time, is the blink of an eye.
The Pope follows Obama.
Can't be pointed out often enough. Who do they find common communion with? Liberals!
Nowhere in that story the word “liberal” even appear.
One of the problems with this Pope and all of the people who surround him is that they are probably about the most theologically ignorant and politically motivated prelates ever. I have no objection to working with Lutheran churches, which encompass everything from wildly liberal to quite conservative, but there are definitely theological issues that would prevent “full communion.” For example, Communion itself, which is symbolic to the Lutherans, but real to Catholics.
I think the Pope is just looking for more headlines and praise from the left. He gave one of his usual faux-pious attacks on Catholics today, where of course he speaks from his great heights of progressivist moral perfection. I’m so tired of this!
The "conservative" Lutheran denominations in the US aren't interested in talking to the Vatican about anything, except maybe an unconditional surrender.
So, when your Magisterium strikes a deal with the LWF, it bargains with a faith community which endorses sodomy and abortion among other abominations.
Well it’s a start. Do you think the conservative Lutheran churches will also join in?
These are folks for whom confessional Lutherans pray but not with whom we care to associate.
The Catholic side is not telling the Lutherans that they should repent, underscored Feige”
The feely, feely, PC church of Vat II or the truth as professed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church, and preached loud and clear by all Catholic theologians for the last 2,000 years. The Reformation is nothing to be celebrated by the Catholic Church. It was an abomination against God and should be denounced loud and clear by all faithful Catholics.
“Martin Luther WAS “Father Martin Luther,” a very erudite Catholic priest and theologian in his day”
Luther was barely out of the seminary when he started his antics against the Church. I’ve never understood why anyone would consider him as theologian.
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