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Posted on 08/11/2014 7:54:35 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
The Age of the Universe The '6' Days of Creation
For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of Hashem as the waters cover the seabed.
Habakkuk 2, 14 & Isaiah 11, 9
In the six hundredth year of the sixth [millennium], the gateways of heavenly wisdom and the fountains of lower wisdom will be opened, and the world will be uplifted to prepare for the ascension of the seventh [millennium]...
Zohar I, 117a
The formula for calculating the age of the universe was written by Moses and it's recorded in Tehillim 90.
Tehillim Chapter 90 JPS
90:1 A Prayer of Moses the man of God. L-rd, Thou hast been our dwelling-place in all generations.
90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever Thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, Thou art God.
90:3 Thou turnest man to contrition; and sayest: 'Return, ye children of men.'
90:4 For a thousand years in Thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
90:5 Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep; in the morning they are like grass which groweth up.
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever Thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting...
Basically the formula is 1 day = 1000 years and 1000 years = 1 day.
As a matter of fact in the 13th century Rabbi Isaac of Acco published his calculations based on Tehillim 90. I'm following his footsteps in that respect but I am substituting lunar year numbers for the solar year numbers used in his calculations.
Rabbi Isaac estimated the age of the universe to be 15,340,500,000 years old.
Note: The parameters of this formula differ from cosmology. Cosmology measures from the big bang to the current time, my calculations measure from the Tzimtzum to the 6th millennium.
The Lunar Year
The length of the lunar year is 354.37 days.
Why the lunar year? The Hebrew word for year is shanah, and the gemetria (Hebrew math) of shanah is 355.
Shin = 300
Nun = 50
In order no less
1 day = 1000 years
1000 years = 1 day
354.37 x 1000 = 354370 (one year, of days)
354370 x 7000 = 2480590000 (one week, of days)
2480590000 x 6 = 14883540000 (6 millennium)
14,883,540,000 (from the Tzimtzum to the 6th millennium)
Amazingly I've recently discovered that these results have a mathematical seal.
The key is in 'reducing the numbers.'
Ironically one reduces numbers by adding them together until you arrive at a single digit.
Example: 12345 1+2+3+4+5 = 15, 1+5 = 6
Now on to the results.
14,883,540,000 1+4+8+8+3+5+4 = 33. 3+3 = 6 days! (millennium)
So does this formula work with 5 millennium? Let's shorten this process up...
2480590000 x 5 = 12402950000
1+2+4+0+2+9+5 = 23, 2+3 = 5 days.
2480590000 x 4 = 9922360000
9+9+2+2+3+6 = 31, 3+1 = 4 days.
2480590000 x 3 = 7441770000
7+4+4+1+7+7 = 30, 3 + 0 = 3 days.
2480590000 x 2 = 4961180000
4+9+6+1+1+8 = 29, 2 + 9 =11, 1+1 = 2 days.
2480590000 x 1 = 2480590000
2+4+8+0+5+9 = 28, 2 + 8= 10, 1+0 = 1 day.
7 to round out the week! Why stop now?
2480590000 x 7 = 17364130000
1+7+3+6+4+1+3 = 25, 2 + 5 = 7 days!
The seven days of creation!
It works with 8 and 9 millennium as well.
I have no doubt the sages were aware of the lunar year numbers. Why they did not employ them you'd have to ask them. Perhaps Daniel 12, 4 was their motive.
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.'
Seal the book, to the time of the end...
Mordechai ben Avram
According to the master Kabbalist, Rabbi Isaac of Acco, when counting the years of these cycles, one must not use an ordinary physical year, but rather, a divine year (Otzar Chaim 86b). The Midrash says that each divine day is a thousand years, basing this on the verse, "A thousand years in Your sight are as but yesterday", Psalm 90:4 (Bereshit Rabbah 8:2, Zohar 2: 145b, Sanhedrin 97a). Since each year contains 365.25 days, a divine year would be 365,250 years long. According to this, each cycle of seven thousand divine years would consist of 2,556,750,000 earthly years. This figure of 2.5 billion years is very close to the scientific estimate as to the length of time that life has existed on earth. If we assume that the seventh cycle began with the Biblical account of creation, then this would have occurred when the universe was 15,340,500,000 years old. This is very close to the scientific estimate that the expansion of the universe began some 15 billion years ago." - Taken from Sefer Yetzirah, commentary by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, published by Weiser- 1997, page 186.
A lunar calendar is a calendar that is based on cycles of the lunar phase. Because there are about twelve lunations (synodic months) in a solar year, this period (354.37 days) is sometimes referred to as a lunar year.
The 'Big Bang Theory' is less than one hundred years old but the story is in Kabbalah and is called 'The Shattering of the Vessels'
Well this is certainly looks like a lot of words.
I hope your husband's surgery goes well and gives him relief. I have an idea of what he is dealing with, I damaged a disk some years ago and the pain was off the chart. I was fortunate that it healed without surgery but it took a long time to heal and I was sure unhappy until it got better. I still get an occasional reminder of the injury but it's rare.
Then again, the first chapter did a pretty accurate job of getting the nuclear physics and the astronomy and the geology and the biology right .....
Can you share what it means?
“Excuse me, where did the 600 come from?”
Noah’s age at the time of the flood.
::Sigh:: The gospel is not "obvious" unless one already accepts it.
Israel was not given the "new testament" at Sinai. It was given The Torah. It was also told to never depart from it to the right or to the left and warned that any deviation from it would result in exile. The insistence that the Torah was "temporary" and "preparatory" does not come from the Torah but from the "new testament." Which means that one has to already accept the "new testament" to begin with in order to believe the claim! What is so hard to understand about this? The chrstian claim that Moses and the Biblical Israelites worshiped J*sus (chas vechalilah!) is no different than the moslem claim that Abraham practiced islam.
Good gravy. Do you people not see what you are doing?
Nope--on the 7th day, God created "rest."
“Unfortunately, I am also disgusted. This is incoherent dribble! This is a total redo and I’m assuming I need it right away.’
Which Torah are you talking about, the ten commandments alone, the 613 commandments, the Talmud, the Zohar and associated Kabbalist writings? Some Rabbis say the “Torah” should be broadened to include these other things.
I think boogieman got it pegged, you guys will accept anything, even forbidden occultic philosophical beliefs, before you will the gospel.
The good rabbi said in the article ...
Basically the formula is 1 day = 1000 years and 1000 years = 1 day.
Mathematically, if A = B ... and B = C ... then by the transitive property, A = C.
Applying to the above ... 1 day = 1 day.
You're done. You see now?
It is true that there are Orthodox Jews, even Charedim, who accept the "scientific" chronology and interpretation of Genesis (Rabbi 'Aryeh Kaplan was one of these), though I understand that most do not. It is also true that even some "Modern Orthodox" reject the cosmogony of "science."
Unfortunately, non-Jews know nothing about Qabbalah and I am not sure we are supposed to. Even pious and learned Jews are not supposed to start learning it until they are forty years old. The tendency on FR and among chrstians is to make Qabbalah into a punching bag and blame it from leading Jews "astray" from chrstianity (a religion they were never commanded to believe in the first place). I can only say that from my experience (limited, it is true, but still more than most non-Jews on FR) it is the Qabbalists and mystics who are most dedicated to the literal truth of Genesis while the anti-Qabbalists tend to be hyper-rationalists who have no problem with evolution or secular chronology. I have seen anti-Qabbalah sites which are quite friendly to evolution whereas the Chabadniks (for example) are among the most dedicated to the the historicity of Genesis. The late Lubavitcher Rebbe (zt"l) was a staunch creationist who held the line while many others were caving in. And here is a book published just last year by a distinguished rabbi and scholar on this very subject, defending the historicity of Genesis from modern rationalist/scientific critiques within Orthodoxy.
I will make two more points:
1)Regardless of the interpretation of the days of creation, once Adam and Eve are created on Day Six we begin dealing with actual history and a literal chronology. Ie, Adam actually lived 930 years, the Flood and Dispersion actually occurred, and Noah died when Abraham was 58 years old. I am unaware of anyone in traditional Orthodoxy, Charedi or "Modern," who would deny this, though I'm sure in this day and age many calling themselves "Orthodox" (defined exclusively as practice rather than belief) who do.
2)"Science" speculates on events of the distant past based on observation of the world as it exists and operates today. The notion that this is valid is based on nothing but an assumption. Why should the process of creation follow laws that were not even in existence at the time? Why would not the universe begin to function according to natural law only after the act of creation was complete? This is a perfectly rational question which advocates of scientific cosmogony never seem to get around to answering. They often insult creationists for not knowing much about paleontology, biology, astrology, cosmology, etc., but what have such subjects to do with the absolutely unique creation of the objects of the study of those fields? That the current laws of biology or astrology can throw light on the events in which life or the stars were created from nothing is a modern conceit with no external justification other than the claim that "G-d would never do that!" And why wouldn't He, especially considering that the alternative attributes falsehood and errors to the Holy Torah (chas vechalilah!)?
Well, that's my two sheqels' worth.
Torah was fulfilled perfectly with Messiah Yahshua/Joshua.
He is the living oracles after all..we should expect perfect fulfillment as believers.
I apologize to Jews that their promised Messiah has been counterfeited into a greco roman latin savior the world knows today.
The Messiah was born on a new moon in the sixth month of His year, circumcised on the 8th day, according to Torah (8th day of month is a Sabbath per Ezekiel 46:1), dedicated at the temple after His mother’s purification.(40 days after His birth) that day is the 10th day of the 7th month in Torah-the Day of Atonement-Yom Kippur.
He was baptized on a New Moon day.(His 30th birthday) then scripture says he spent the next 40 days fasting (a scene like His mother’s 40 days of purification from His birth)
He was killed on a Feast, (passover-the 14th day of month) rested in the tomb on a Sabbath/Feast (15th day of month-unleavened bread), and was raised the third day- on another Feast (first fruits-16th day of month and first day of the work week)
All of those are found in scripture in New Testament, backed up with Torah. New Moons, Sabbaths and Feasts shown to Israel as shadows and rehearsals of the coming Messiah and Kingdom. The only one that is needed to know is the birth date and that was given to us in Revelation 12:2.
(But I am working on seeing it in the prophets or Torah-only place I am seeing it is in Haggai’s first verse currently but I am not versed in the Hebrew block logic that may have it in other places)
Like a puzzle piece that has things line up where Torah can be seen in the new testament. It helps to reject the world’s calendar first and accept His monthly calendar of new moon, six work days and sabbath.
He only has two appointed times to fulfill - Trumpets and Tabernacles..
And I never used the word Jesus once.. Jesus, we are told, was born on December 25 and he was killed on good friday and raised on easter Sunday. That certainly fits no new moon, sabbath or feast in Torah.
No scripture, old or new, matches the story the church tells and practices with its pope appointed holy days and sabbaths instead of what Torah has. There is no friday or sunday in scripture after all.
Maybe that is why Israel cant see any Torah in Christendom’s Word that became flesh and dwelt among us. We can’t. But the fulfillments can be seen and Jews can see fulfilled prophecies from prophets in the new testament. They did happen.
The Messiah did walk amongst us.. He lives forever more.. He is the Living Oracles and match perfectly His life with the written Oracles. Literally.
Honestly, I am less and less comfortable with the greco roman latin name, holy days and sabbath he has been assigned by the world.
Joshua is a fine English name that could have been placed 900 times in the new testaments of today ..Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8 in the new testament proves that with certain translations changing those ‘jesus’s ‘ to joshua.
And Joshua, in the english, is a name in Scripture Israel
would be familiar with.
I pray you can see it and believe in Him. Whatever name you call Him or what churches teach about Him- The Written Oracles became flesh and dwelt among us. Torah lives !
Torah encompasses all those things. And since "you guys" insist that the Torah includes the "new testament," your feigned insistence that Torah only means the Written Torah is hypocritical.
I think boogieman got it pegged, you guys will accept anything, even forbidden occultic philosophical beliefs, before you will the gospel.
I'm not Jewish. And I used to be a chrstian. So your assumptions are untrue.
The Jews were assembled at Sinai and given THE TORAH. They were not given the qur'an. They were not given the book of mormon. They were not given the "new testament." Therefore they must reject islam, mormonism, and more traditional forms of chrstianity. They must adhere to the Torah given at Sinai--Written and Oral (the Written Torah consists of nothing but a string of consonants with no vowels or punctuation and is therefore incomprehensible without the Oral Torah). None of your bugbears (Talmud, Qabbalah, etc.) claim to "replace" the Torah, and Talmudists and Qabbalists observe the same Torah that was given at Sinai. Chrstians do not observe the Torah at all, and even if they did chrstianity would still be a false, unauthorized innovation. And you forget that chrstianity has its own oral traditions and its own "occult" teachings.
If you truly believe that chrstianity is true then I understand why your conscience compels you to observe it (whichever of the seven hundred kazillion varieties floats your boat). But chrstians believe in chrstianity based on the authority of the chrstian church or of the "new testament"--NOT the Torah from Sinai. At least be honest enough to admit this and don't claim to see chrstianity's authorization at Sinai. It was no more authorized there than islam was.
ZC are you sure you’re not a rabbi ;)
Bravo Zulu, nicely stated.
“::Sigh:: The gospel is not “obvious” unless one already accepts it.”
Certainly, it is obvious. There’s only one candidate for the Messiah in history that even comes close to fulfilling the prophecies, and that is Jesus. After Israel rejected him, their nation was destroyed and they were cast into exile to the four corners of the earth, as prophesied, while their former oppressors were brought under the feet of Christ, as prophesied. I suppose God could make it clearer for you, but would it do any good?
“Israel was not given the “new testament” at Sinai. It was given The Torah. It was also told to never depart from it to the right or to the left and warned that any deviation from it would result in exile. The insistence that the Torah was “temporary” and “preparatory” does not come from the Torah but from the “new testament.” Which means that one has to already accept the “new testament” to begin with in order to believe the claim!”
No, there is no claim that the Torah was temporary in the New Testament. On the contrary, the NT confirms that the law is eternal. However, certain aspects of the law are redundant once you are redeemed. You cannot, for example, become ritually impure, once you are purified by God Himself.
Now, the law does not pass away, but the covenant made at Sinai does pass away, as Jeremiah 31 attested to. It’s interesting that you acknowledge correctly that the consequence of disobedience to the Torah was exile. Israel suffered its greatest exile shortly after Jesus appeared. You might think that would induce some soul-searching on the part of the Jewish people, to figure out exactly what disobedience caused that exile, but as far as I can tell, they refuse to address that question, and God hasn’t sent any more prophets to answer it for them. Might be something worth thinking about.
Re your #2.
What is the meaning of Psa 19(18):1-3 assuming the laws of nature have changed over time? I will post the passage below to ensure there is no confusion about to which passage I’m referring:
18:1 Unto the end. A Psalm Chapter for David.
18:2 The heavens shew forth the glory of God, and the firmament declareth the work of his hands.
18:3 Day to day uttereth speech, and night to night sheweth knowledge.
My question in other words is this: how does creation testify to God, if this creation is impossible to understand by our human mind?
9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
2:15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying: 'Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat;
2:17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.'
The Meaning of "Adam": Insights into the Hebrew Language
Adam lived for 930 years. Our Sages explained that he really should have lived for a complete millennium, but he willingly gave up 70 years of his life to someone who would use them to reverse the death sentence that Adam had introduced to mankind. Adam prophetically saw that a potential descendent of his to be born thousands of years later had not been allocated years and he sacrificed 70 of his own so that person would live.
The recipient of those years was none other than King David, the scion of the messianic line which will usher in the end of time. Our tradition teaches that the Moshiach will help bring the world to its perfection and toward revival of the dead, reversing Adam's colossal mistake. Adam knew this, and realized that it was critical for him to ensure that King David would live and accomplish his task in the world. Adam had brought death to the world, and to correct that, he ensured that there would be someone to bring us back to eternal life.
'Yom' Yud Vav Mem in Bereshet 1 and 2, day.
Our Sages explained that he really should have lived for a complete millennium... 1 yom a thousand years, a thousand years one yom...
Correction on this statement from my last post:
“The Jewish Karaite man I conversed with would disagree, Karaite Judaism considers your extra-Biblical Talmud and Kabbalah an utter subversion of Biblical Judaism...”
He did indeed view both Talmud and Kabbalah subversions of Biblical Judaism; he viewed Kabbalah, not the Talmud, a Jewish form of occultism, witchcraft - and an abomination.
More gematria / Hebrew math, every letter has a numerical value.
Take Bereshet (Genesis) Chapter 1:1 In the beginning ELoHIM created the heaven and the earth.
אֱלֹהִים EloHIM, Alef Lamed Hei Yud Mem which corresponds to 1, 30, 5, 10 and 40 (no final Mem here) drop the 0's put the numbers in a circle and you get...
3 1 4 1 5 Pi in the first sentence of the Torah!
I know of atbash and atbach (letter substitution ciphers) and now a galgal (wheel) cipher!
Ergo ELoHIM is infinite! Truly infinite!
As always, there's lots more...and the waters fine...
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