Posted on 07/19/2013 5:39:12 AM PDT by fatima
http://www.spiritdaily.com/lorig.htm
For Father Lorig, going strong at 77 and full of the Spirit, it's a matter of seeing some of it with his own eyes.
On about a dozen occasions, says the priest, he has personally encountered spirits of the dead, including at bedside during the night, and has been led to pray their souls toward Jesus.
Father Lorig, who was ordained a Catholic priest in 1984, and who is married with four children (and fifteen grandchildren), had some special experiences while at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church in Nogales (near the Mexican border).
"It was built over an Indian graveyard -- paleo-Indians who were peaceful," says Father Lorig, pastor of Saint Maria Goretti parish (he is not associated with previous claims at this church of the supernatural).
"While we were digging a sacrarium -- a dry well [for proper disposal of Communion wine] -- the workmen came upon hand-made pots. We called the University of Arizona, which had paleontologists, and they came down.
Yes, thank-you, God Bless.
Christ's sacrifice makes us perfect.
Colossians 2:13-14 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
Galatians 2:20 20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Romans 8:10 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Hebrews 10:14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.
Those who are in Christ are already perfect spiritually. When the body, the flesh, dies, there is no longer any imperfection in the believer.
Therefore, the believer can enter God's presence.
Besides, not fire, not suffering, not penance, not anything can cleanse from sin except the blood of Jesus.
Hebrews 9:22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.
Without blood, no forgiveness.
Were there is forgiveness there is no need for any further sacrifice.
All we are told to do in regard to sin is repent and confess.
Not one mention of penance in the Bible.
The wages of sin is death. That is the penalty we have to pay unless we are forgiven.
And if we are forgiven, there is nothing left to pay for.
Amen, and I have confessed and accepted Jesus as my personal savior. What a gift God gave for us.
And GIFT it is.
Not wages due for behavior performed.
There’s no mercy needed to mete out justice.
Mercy only exists when you don’t give someone what they are due.
Not one mention of penance?
“Until the last penny is paid.”
Actually, it does not do the former and is weaker than the latter.
2. As I said -- we are sanctified by Christ throughout our lives and in the final step, in what we call Purgatory our final sins of life are washed away so that we enter pure before God.
As we read in Revelations 21:27 "nothing impure will ever enter it"
and you have Luke 12:58-59 58 As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate, try hard to be reconciled on the way, or your adversary may drag you off to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. 59 I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.” -- now remember that the prison of hell you cannot get out of, so ponder on what this means
That’s works, not mercy or grace.
Do you understand what *forgiveness* is?
Well, Maccabees ain’t in the Bible.
Also, the rich man was in Hell, and Lazurus was being comforted, not tormented.
So, to be frank, I don’t see the connection.
I can’t disagree.
Well, just to set the record straight, I am a baptized believer in Christ, and have no doubt of my ultimate destination, although I may be living in the slums of Heaven. God is the judge of my righteousness, not me.
Thanks be to God, He is The Rock, thus nothing can take me from His hand for He is the perfect, all powerful Deliverer. If it were left to me to make any of the work to save me, to preserve the Grace of God in Christ, I would fail because we wre4stle not against flesh and blood but against Principalities, against a spiritual brilliance far beyond our human capacities.
1. Maccabees is in the bible. It was also in the first editions of both Luthers bible and the king James version until it was removed in the 1700s. And don’t forget Jesus himself pointed out a “place” where you would not get out until your sins were removed. That could not be heaven or hell
As Jesus said he who endures to the end will.be saved. Yet He also says He who repents and believes will be saved, and he who eats of His body and blood will be saved. So we know we are saved, we know as Jesus tells us, we will be saved by Him if we endureth to the end. So Jesus does not want you just to say Lord, Lord. He does not want you to just sit back post baptist
Amen.
If left to me, I would surely screw it up.
Thank God it is God who works in me to will and to do according to His good pleasure.
Chapter and verse?
All,
It is interesting that in many Christian oriented religious chains the concentration is on “denominational” differences on who is or is not a “good Christian.” Lost in these is the fact that we should be focus on what unites us, that our salvation is a gift from Jesus for his self-sacrifice and our belief in him and what he taught us.
thus the hymn: The Church’s one foundation, Jesus Christ our Lord.
And here is a link to the personal testimony of a close friend of mine on his experience that is much like Fr. Lorig’s
http://bswett.com/1995-11GoodCatholicGhosts.html
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