Posted on 11/26/2011 3:33:54 PM PST by Iggles Phan
My problem with the 'Rapture' (pre-millenial; pre-tribulation) teaching is that it forces its adherents to actually REVERSE the Person of Jesus Christ to the Devil.
That's correct.
In the 'Rapture' (or Dispensational) scheme the believer is asked to take the Person of Daniel's 70th Week (Who is Jesus Christ at the Cross) described in Chapter 9, verse 27a:
"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, ..."
... and reverse this 'he' to mean a 'future Antichrist'.
Are you confused?
Is this Jesus Christ or Antichrist?
1. The Historic View.
This view is typified by the 1599 Geneva Bible notes. These are the notes of John Calvin, Miles Coverdale, and John Knox to name a few.
1599 Geneva Bible Notes on Daniel 9:27a:
"By the preaching of the gospel he confirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection."
It's pretty clear that the Reformers believed that Christ was the Person of Daniel's Great 70th Week.
2. The Modernist View (Dispensational).
In contrast however, compare this historic view to the Dispensational view typified in the Ryrie Study Notes (1978). Look who the modernists assign to this very same Person in Daniel 9:27a:
"The prince of verse 26, the Antichrist previously introduced in 7:8, 24-26, who will make a pact with many (of the Jewish people) at the beginning of the tribulation period. But in the middle of the week (i.e., 3 1/2 years later) Antichrist will break his covenant and desecrate the Temple by demanding worship of himself in it."
The difference couldn't be farther apart.
Historic Christianity says that Jesus fulfilled the 70th week AT THE CROSS, but Rapture Christianity (Dispensationalism) says that the Devil fulfills it in a 're-built' temple.
Therefore, Dispensationalism is no less than a frontal assault on the Cross of Christ. It reverses Jesus Christ to the Devil. It is malicious and a pernicious doctrine.
Remember, this Dispensational view was NEVER known until 1830. That's why it is a Modernist view. It was invented by JN Darby and popularized by CI Scofield, two con-men to Christianity.
In the 20th century, carpetbaggers such as Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, Jack (and Rexella) Van Impe, John Hagee and others have made fame and fortune off of this con game. They have marketed this 'Rapture' theology like a cheap box of laundry detergent on TV and radio, and with videos and books.
My hope and prayer is that the Church starts to wake up out of its slumber and starts challenging its pastors, ministries, and teachers. The Cross of Christ is at stake here!
For the Glory of Christ Jesus. Amen.
Like many who are exceptional in the world and are distinguished from the "ordinary" and oftentimes boring man...God raises up 'the unexpected'...
John the Batist comes to mind... His voiceand verbage rattled the religious instructors of his time. The there was Mary ...surely not of the elite of her time, who no doubt the woman of her day anticipated that God would choose one of them over some garden variety common Jewish gal. It wouldn't be "expected".
Then of course there were the religious teachers of that time who couldn't imagine thier "King" coming as an infant in a stable surrounded by farm animals...in fact they denied him and attempted to take his life...a life only he could lay down willingly.
It is wise to not trust ones expectations on who God raises up to fulfill His will among men...in fact one could miss entirely the occasion to see His great hand work.... God seems to work most often via the un-expected....and I think He enjoys doing so.
Some take that fear of the inexorable and use it to make believe that they are a higher caste, prechosen to sneer at the non-worthy, non-elite/elect. Others take that to speculate about the methods of Ragnarok and the time. And still others posting pictures of their teeth. The weirdest pictured ones believe in God as an alien UFO diviner using bio-genetically created robots posing as aliens, but who are actually controlled by demons (yes, that's what they believe) and believe that Jesus Himself was an alien. Others say Jesus was just the Archangel Michael etc. etc. -- the permutations and combinations in which man tries to fill the void due to their revolt against God's community are myriad and strange.
Quix said,
We are all responsible for God’s Words and Truth whether spoken through a mule, an ass, a toad, a rock, a child or even someone we consider an enemy.
= = =
Amen, bro.
John 18:12-14 So the band of soldiers and their captain and the officers of the Jews arrested Jesus and bound him. 13First they led him to Annas, for he was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, who was high priest that year. 14It was Caiaphas who had advised the Jews that it would be expedient that one man should die for the people.
Well, He said He was the bread of life.
In the literal reading then He must be made of dough.
Just like when Jesus said He was the door, that would mean He was made of wood, or the vine that He was made of plant.
If we’re to take one verse literally, we must take them all literally right?
And if we take one verse in a passage or discourse literally, then it’s disingenuous to take the rest figuratively and choose between literal meaning and figurative meaning on a verse by verse basis.
The problem with demanding that people take the verse about eating Jesus actual flash and blood literally, is that the whole rest of the teaching that that sentence is buried in makes NO SENSE at all when taken literally. But it does it it’s spiritual/figurative.
Catholicism makes salvation way too complicated.
Jesus made it easy. Believe.
Religion makes it difficult. Be baptized, take communion, go to confession, do this, don’t do that, etc.....
Jesus used a lot of material objects to describe Himself—He said, “I am the Light.” “I am the Door.” “I am the Shepherd.”
But He never said, “That light is Me.” “That door is Me.” “That shepherd is Me.”
However, He did say, “That Bread is Me. That Wine is Me.”
Thanks, metmom.
Do you understand state of being verbs???
I am
you are
he/she/it is....
When He said *I am the ______* He was saying *That is me*.
*is* and *am* are both state of being verbs.
Not a phan of Iggles:) Seriously, the people of the prince to come were primarily troops from regions in the middle east, not Rome (See Josephus). So the leader of these people will also be a mideastner, not Roman. The next verse (Dan. 9:27) says that “he” will confirm a covenant with the Many for one seek (seven). This is obviously not a literal week of seven days, but a period of seven (shabua) years. The antecedent of “he” in Dan. 9:27 is the “he” of Dan. 9:26, making him the future antichrist who will rise from the middle east, confirm a false peace agreement with Israel for seven years, put an end to sacrfice and offering in the rebuilt JErusalem temple after 3 1/2 years, occupy the temple and claim to be God (2 Thes. 2:3,4) and thus commit the abomination of desolation (Matt. 24:15)
THX TONX for your encouraging words.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
Not the tiniest punctuation mark of The Word of God will fall to the ground.
ALL WILL BE FULFILLED TO THE LETTER.
THX
THX.
MAY GOD BE HIGHLY PRAISED AND EXALTED.
MAY THE ROCKS CRY OUT HIS PRAISE AND TRUTHS.
MAY HOLY SPIRIT PIERCE TO THE BONE MARROW ALL WHO MAY BE REDEEMED WITH HIS TRUTH, JUSTICE, MERCY, HUMILITY.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE NAME AND WORD OF THE LORD.
THX for your encouragements.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
INDEED.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
THX
You do realize don’t you, that punctuation was added to the Word of God?
There were no verses or commas in the original manuscripts.
You know or should know that Christ was speaking literally when he was speaking about the bread and wine.
After all how can someone be damned for a symbol?
See Paul.
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