Earth: Rock of Ages or Young Planet?

Inspire Tomorrow ^ | Dec. 15, 2010 | Rosemarie Thompson

[ImProudToBeAnAmerican]

“For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day.” (Exodus 20:11a KJV)

According to evolutionary scientists, the earth is over 4 billion years old; but Biblical chronology dates the age of the earth at about 6,000 years. In an attempt to reconcile the two extreme positions, many creation scientists have used 2 Peter 3:8 to state that the six days mentioned in the Genesis account were not literal 24-hour days. However, if we used the “a day is as a thousand years” formula, we would have the six days of creation plus the day of rest equaling 7,000 years, at most. Hardly a good reconciliation with 4 billion years. So, how old is the earth?...

Fifth article in a series about Creation by Rosemarie Thompson.

Comments welcome!

[editor-surveyor]

> “How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden?”

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Irrelevant.

The Bible specifically states how long Adam lived, and it was short of 1000 years.
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[CodeToad]

“”but Biblical chronology dates the age of the earth at about 6,000 years. “

One guy put that together and who says he got it right?

[jaydubya2]

Isn’t the “needle” the entrance to an area that was made intentionally small so people could pass but a camel could not enter? If I’m wrong, I’m sure I’ll be corrected.

[numberonepal]

One long text from the Sumerians reaches us primarily through later Babylonian copies. This text is known as the Epic of Creation or Enuma elish (its first words).

Here the process by which our Solar System came into being is outlined. The Sumerian text describes how our Sun and its messenger Mercury were first joined by a planet called Tiamat. It goes on to describe how a pair of planets Venus and Mars coalesced between the Sun and Tiamat followed by two pairs beyond - Jupiter and Saturn and Uranus and Neptune. These later two were unknown to astronomers until 1781 and 1846 respectively. As these celestial bodies pulled and tugged gravitationally between one another, some of them sprouted satellites or moons. Tiamat sprouted eleven satellites. One of them was so big it began to assume the aspects of a planet.

Into that unstable Solar System there appeared another invader (planet) from outer space - a planet not born of the same system. Millennia before modern astronomy knew of pulsars and exploding stars, Sumerian cosmology already knew of these concepts. And so, Enuma elish related, one such cast off planet, reaching the outskirts of our system, began to be drawn into its midst.

As this intruder passed by the outer planets, it caused changes that account for enigmas such as the cause for Uranus' tilt on its side, or the retrograde orbit of Triton, or what pulled Pluto from its place as a satellite to a planet with an odd orbit. The more the invader was pulled into our Solar System's center, the more is was forced into a collision course with Tiamat. This eventually resulted in a "Celestial battle". In the series of collisions, with the invader's satellites repeatedly smashing into Tiamat, the olden planet split in two. One half of it was smashed to bits and became the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter along with various comets. The other half was thrust into a new orbit to become the planet we know as Earth. In the process this "new" planet retained Tiamat's largest satellite as what we know as the Moon. The invader itself was captured in the Sun's gravity well permanently to become the Solar System's twelfth member (Sun, moon, and 10 planets). The Sumerians called it Niburu - "Planet of the Crossing". The Babylonians renamed it to Marduk in honor of their national god. It was during this epic celestial battle that the "seed of life" brought by Niburu was passed to Earth.

[eastforker]

The problem is that everyone here is interpreting the bible as if god himself put pen to paper. The fact is this is a mans interpretation of what he believes of what he thought god told him.Now, about that other woman adam had, what was her name, you know, the one that was not subservient to him?I'll throw this out there also. The tree of knowledge of good and evil may have had nothing at all to do with an actual tree or fruit, rather it was the act of sex,and that was the original sin the author was trying to convey. That would have been quite the temptation of man, having a woman made just for him, both of them walking around naked and told not to partake of it.

[paladin1_dcs]

Ahh, when you can’t point to Scripture for support, you resort to ad hominem attacks. Got it.

Strange, I don’t remember sheep having canine incisors. Wolves, on the other hand...

Hope you like it hot, the Master isn’t fooled by sheepskin.

[Matchett-PI]

"One of the biggest 'concepts' I have of Genesis is that I have no way to comprehend what a 'day' meant to GOD."

Here are some interesting "takes" on that subject.

[Vegasrugrat]

Science, however, is supposed to be the pursuit of truth. Why do so many scientists believe in evolution in spite of the genetic evidence? They do so because they cannot think outside the box of materialistic evolution. They do so because Darwinian evolution is a religion, not genuine science.

"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen" (Romans 1:25).

[UCANSEE2]

First I would have to accept that the Universe is finite and non-eternal. Then I could quibble over it’s age.

I’ve seen no proof, so far, that it is not timeless and eternal. Just like God. It is God. Without GOD it is not.

(I think I got that from the Bible)

I could be wrong, but where is the proof? Our gaze has extended to the far reaches of the Universe, and what do we see? More of the same.

Math tells us there must be a limit to the energy used to create the Universe, and therefore it’s size is such and such. This is the same math that defines the largest size of certain stellar objects, and yet it has to be revised each month as we discover something LARGER than our ‘math’ said it could be.

The better our equipment becomes, the more we find. It’s the limit of our equipment that makes us believe there is a limit to the Universe (when logically it should make us believe the opposite).

People are funny.

[paladin1_dcs]

This is what I was told as well, except that a camel could pass but only on it’s knees, i.e. only through great difficulty could it happen.

Not sure what to make of this, if anything though. Just an interesting thought.

[editor-surveyor]

> “In the Bible, it says a rich man will have a harder time getting into heaven than a camel through the eye of a needle.”

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Camel is an erroneous translation, caused by the lack of vowels in the languages of the near east. The “kml” was taken as camel but it should have been keml, which is a rope, or cord.

A rope can go through the needle, if broken down one thread at a time. That is the lesson.
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[goat granny]

Yes, the needle is an entrance for those on foot. One of the entrances into the city. In his day, everyone knew of the needle entrance...a camel could not enter the city throught the needle.

Much of the bible is lost via century's long past..imho

[Matchett-PI]

".. you resort to ad hominem attacks. Got it."

Like when you accused me of spouting heresy?

Puleeeeeeeeeze.

[WhatsItAllAbout]

Calculating the age of the Earth using the Scriptures genealogies is a grave error. See the 1863 commentary by William Henry Green for the reasons it doesn't work at

http://www.outersystem.us/creationism/PrimevalChronology.html

[Hootowl]

I don’t suppose you realize how petty you sound quibbling about something like this? The ancient Jews didn’t have micrometers and measurements were, of necessity, pretty rough. To demand that an historic account be precise to the n’th degree is to hold the writers of the OT to a standard of perfection that is not demanded of anyone else. Your prejudice is showing.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Yes, that's one of the biblically illiterate / fundie interpretations of Scripture. :)

What's ironic about your use of a link to Tektonics.org is that JP Holding is a YEC.

[paladin1_dcs]

Claiming that death preceeded sin is heresy. No amount of pointing to other men's work on your part will change that.

[UCANSEE2]

What I see it boil down to on this type of thread (and things like the missile threads) is that it is not WHAT is RIGHT, but WHO is RIGHT.

That leads to the grasping for straws in an effort to have everyone else see the 'world' the same way you do. And it never works.

[SeeSac]

is to hold the writers of the OT to a standard of perfection that is not demanded of anyone else.

I thought God was the word of the Old Testament. Now you are telling me that the 'Word of God' is actually the 'Word of Human Writers' and cannot be held to be inerrant.

[SeeSac]

You obviously have never read the Epic of creation.