Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Too many beers could have affected his reading comprehension. :-)
The theme of THIS THREAD is that the Catholic Church wants to reunite Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Poland, the Czech Republic and various other parts of Eastern Europe into a dictatorial monarchy. YOU are talking about Catholics being socialists, perhaps YOU should go start a thread on THAT topic because you are way off base on this thread.
BLAH,BLAH,BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Are you suppose to be cute?
"We've been through this kind of lying before. RC apologists can't argue from Scripture, so they rewrite other people's comments and then discuss those fictitious rewrites."
I made that statement because Roman Catholic apologists had just rewritten my comment and responded to their own rewrite of my statement as if I had written it which is common practice among some RC apologists.
As I said, that is a pathetic way to argue.
As I pointed out earlier, from the viewpoint of a Jew there is no Scriptural support for Christianity.
Then good thing neither of us is a Jew.
Fascism and socialism go hand-in-hand. The “dictatorial monarchy” of Rome is both.
if that’s the theme then one might wish to stick to it instead of trying to interpret ancient Jewish Law. just sayin’
As I said before, I am happy to have you not believe me.
I made that statement because Roman Catholic apologists had just rewritten my comment and responded to their own rewrite of my statement as if I had written it which is common practice among some RC apologists.
I didn't rewrite your comment at all, the ONLY change I made was to point out which portion was metmom's.
As I said, that is a pathetic way to argue.
Asking you a question about something you wrote is "pathetic"?
oh my, is someone’s ox gored
What an absolutely stupid reply. 10 on a scale of 0-10.
Now for another (deliberately) stupid remark:
Many more Catholics voted Communist in Italy than Protestants did.
(The fact that Catholics greatly outnumber Protestants is not trlevant.) "Quantitatively" is the only relevant factor.
Did you think that by cobbling together a dubious explanation you got to repost an objectionable post that had been deleted?
I'm pretty sure the mod gets to have the last word no matter how much it kills you not to be able to.
"Tradition" is whatever Rome says it is at the time it says it.
The fact remains that even if 100% of Catholics had voted for Obama he would have still required a significant percentage of Protestants to win. No single group has clean hands.
lol. Any club in the bag will do when all you want to do is throw it. 8~)
What an absolutely stupid reply. 10 on a scale of 0-10.
Now for another (deliberately) stupid remark:
Many more Catholics voted Communist in Italy than Protestants did.
(The fact that Catholics greatly outnumber Protestants is not trlevant.) "Quantitatively" is the only relevant factor.
Fascism IS socialism.
No, asking me a question about something you wrote and passed off as mine is pathetic.
Really? I wonder why the Catholic church has been so eager to support it in various places?
Thank you for providing such an excellent example of why Republicans have so much trouble getting the Catholic vote. It's the old "if they talk about us like this to our faces how do they talk about us behind our backs" thing.
why look at that! back to “the theme” of this thread!
1000 SILVERLINGS: well then explain why so many Jews have converted to Christianity
That is a GREAT question.
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