Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Thank you for your good advice, in the future I will try and keep up. I have learned so much on this thread, like for instance, make a post and then deny what it says a few posts later. Oh and this post doesn’t say what it says and i didn’t say it.
I know you never miss an opportunity to show them off, but the new teeth really aren’t that much better than the old ones.
On May 7 Pope John Paul II dedicated his general audience to “the Virgin Mary” and urged all Christians to accept Mary as their mother. He noted the words spoken by Jesus on the cross to Mary and to John— “Woman, behold thy son!” and “Behold thy mother!” (John 19:26,27), and he claimed that in this statement “IT IS POSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND THE AUTHENTIC MEANING OF MARIAN WORSHIP in the ecclesial community ... which furthermore is based on the will of Christ” (Vatican Information Service, May 7, 1997).
If even one of our FR experts had been available they might have influenced the unfortunate choice of the word “worship” with the appropriate English language word.
Unfortunately we are stuck with the Vatican amateurs.
INDEED . . .
Thankfully, most Proddys are aware that
veneration = worship = adoration before it meant
adoration = veneration = worship before it meant
worship = veneration = adoration before it meant
adoration = worship = veneration before it meant
worship = adoration = veneration before it meant
. . . .
I wonder if John SKerry is a full professor in the
Vatican Alice in Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling?
“God looked at everything He had made and He found it very good.”
Genesis 1:31
Mary grew wings and flew into the desert and the rest of her story is in the book of Revelation where she’s in heaven with the moon and the stars, answering millions of prayers that come in every day, it never ends. Jesus is hiding from her because he’s tired of her “Oy vey” ing
INDEED.
It still amazes me that so many RC’s just glibly write off the business about
THOSE WHO DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER ARE MY FATHER, MOTHER, BROTHERS, SISTERS,
. . . as though He was just flapping His lips to hear the wind blow without any meaningful content escaping at all.
Perhaps you should find some of those threads. This thread was SUPPOSED to be about some banned trolls bizarre theory that the Catholic Church wants to reestablish the Holy Roman Empire. NOBODY has addressed that, as best I can tell those usually found on these sort of threads were somehow attracted to the title like moths to a flame.
Where have I denied anything?
If you want to say that I said that the once saved, always saved crowd is the same as the anti-Catholic bigot crowd it is YOUR responsibility to show where I said this, otherwise YOU are bearing false witness.
I just heard a cute story..
A man and his dog died in an accident . He finds himself and his dog standing in front of a huge golden gate...There is a sign saying no pets allowed..a stranger walks up to him so he asks" what is this place ", the stranger tells him that "it is heaven".
The man said, "Can my friend can not come in with me?" The stranger says" no".. the man thinks about it and walks away with his dog..
After a time they come upon a pasture, there is a water fountain and a dog water dish, so the man fill the dish to give his friend a drink .. a different stranger walks up to him and so he asks what this place is.. the stranger says "this is heaven" .
The man thinks a minute and says.."well down the road there was this beautiful gated area, and a man there said that is heaven"... the new stranger smiled and said , no that is hell...
" We use them to screen out people for us, anyone that would leave his best friend behind, doesn't deserve to be in heaven"
gosh, I wish I knew what you are talking about, but i dont
I dug out the skunk shampoo recipe anyway. Here it is for future reference, (In case she didn’t learn the first time)
1 quart Hydrogen Peroxide
1/4 C Baking soda
1 Tbsp Dawn dishwashing detergent
Stir together S-L-O-W-L-Y. DO NOT cap.
I guess it’s a make as you go kind of thing. I doubt it would have good shelf life, but she said it worked better than anything else, like tomato juice, and her dog didn’t end up pink.
No, not works. Not good outweighs bad or good can make up for or cancel out bad.
Scripture is clear that it’s faith that justifies one, not works.
Obviously there’s no accounting for taste.
Later, while visiting my favorite no-kill cat shelter to make a donation and to visit the cats, I discussed the loss of my cat and the improbability of ever adopting another cat because of my "advanced" age I was introduced to an 11 year old, FIV+, nearly toothless, ex-feral cat who had been in the shelter for more than a year and was considered unadoptable.
Needless to say this unadoptable old man adopted her. She is so sweet, loveable, and happy to be in her own home. We were meant for each other.
I emphathize with your loss having outlived no less than 5 cats in the last 35 years. Bless you for your loving kindness to your cat(s). Animals are also God's creatures.
In what way was it different? Do you believe it was painless?
On the contrary, it shows that the Blessed Mother and Saint Joseph were totally devoted to their Son. From the time of His Birth onward they were in fear for His life (not their own, but His). EVERYTHING they did was for Him. The Holy Family WAS NOT a "normal" family, they were the most incredibly abnormal family in all of history.
I do not recall them running for Jesus life except when they fled to Egypt when he was a baby ? Could you show me where else in the bible it addresses this?
I have only one comment on the holy family not being "a normal" family. Christ came to this world as an infant to live a normal human life, to experience all the life events and things that all jewish boys and men experienced.. He did not come here to be a demi god or to live a life separated from humanity.
So I would think His childhood and life were very ordinary.. until he was baptized and began His ministry
Do you also believe all modern Catholic Bibles are the tool of the Anti-Christ?
Hey I posted on that thread for a while.. those were the days my friend
Do you also believe all modern Catholic Bibles are the tool of the Anti-Christ?
500 yrs is a long time with any witnesses to Christ dead.. as was noted the councils were affirming the deity of Christ ..they were not all about Mary as it seems Rome is today
“As went Scotland, so goes this country.” —> you mean a Scotland which has more people going to the mosque on Friday than to the Presbyterian services each week? And, if not for the Catholics in Scotland, there would be more Muslim worshippers each week than Christian? You like that about Scotland?
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