[OLD REGGIE]

OLD REGGIE: For how many centuries prior to 1950 (was the assumption of Mary commemorated liturgically?)

PYRO 74: Since at least the time of the Council of Ephesus, which took place in the 5th century.

Where's the proof of that?

There were three Councils of Ephesus, and only the first one mentioned Mary, and that only peripherally in relation to Nestorianism.

NOTHING about Mary being sinless or assumed bodily into heaven.

Thanks for your research. It seems that there is a highly specialized Catholic Dictionary with it's own understanding of "always believed".

[RnMomof7]

PYRO 74: Since at least the time of the Council of Ephesus, which took place in the 5th century.

500 yrs is a long time with any witnesses to Christ dead.. as was noted the councils were affirming the deity of Christ ..they were not all about Mary as it seems Rome is today

[Quix]

Thanks for your research. It seems that there is a highly specialized Catholic Dictionary with it’s own understanding of “always believed”.

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Quite so, OLD REGGIE.

Though . . . given that Proddys

do NOT have such a slippery dictionary . . . perhaps we should determine what the

valid and durable name of that

Vatican ‘dictionary’ is.

I’ve been given to understand that the proper term is

The Vatican Daffynitionary.

If you have a better authority on it, please let me know.