Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
I didn’t know the Baptists believe Sola Scriptura referred to the dictionary. ;O)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2578704/posts?page=5340#5340
Ping to 5280, 5284, 5288, 5292, 5321, 5324 and 5340.
Like you’ve got nothing else to do, right? 8~)
And you [hath he quickened], who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Get the picture? Unless God quickens you, reveals to you, you know nothing
What is the rock of the Christian church?
Is it the supernatural revelation God gives to man or is it Peter?
Sorry—you are probably wondering why I pinged you to that post to Old Reggie.
I sent t off without remembering that I was intending to ask if any of you can tell me if I am way off base when I posted that I believed that Jesus didn’t “still have much to learn” , because in the Divine Trinity He is omniscient, but rather that He had much to EXPERIENCE.
Thus the meaning of the Cross.
Please let me know if I am wrong.
No, a God of mercy and love would NOT condemn them PERIOD! Why is so hard to just say that God's grace is sufficient to cover ALL who - through no fault of their own - are unable to accept his gift of grace? Babies go to HEAVEN, not some pretty other place. What is the real reason the Catholic Church cannot come out and say it? Anybody??
Wanna guess why self described catholics are over 30% of abortions,? How many of those that go to church go to confession or think it is necessary? Only 30% of modern Catholics believe in the Real Presence ... How many believe the pope is infallible in matters of doctrine?
They pick and choose what suits their lives. There is more diversity of belief in a catholic mass on Sunday than there is between Arminians and Calvinists
I’m curious why your query isn’t to the Calvinist Predestination followers who *know* that some fetuses in the womb are created for hell. Before they can want, think or poop; no matter if they die in the womb, in childbirth at on their first birthday - hell.
No, but I think that deep down they knew that killing civilians in cold blood is wrong.
They may have been able to justify it to themselves based on the teachings of that satanic cult they belong to, but still, they did make the choice to engage in that act.
AMEN! Great question.
Obviously the Arminian would agree with Rome. There's nothing "supernatural" about a man "agreeing" to a reasonable request for his own benefit.
There most certainly is something "supernatural" about God reaching down to a man and replacing his heart of stone with a heart of flesh and renewing his mind to the truth of Christ risen.
All by the supernatural act of the Holy Spirit, who makes the truth known to us through a supernatural revelation straight to our heart, mind and spirit.
Amen
(Waiting for you to tell me that line from Paul doesn't say what it says and how in the Greek it really means "the Acropolis has been tented for termites.")
LOL
The grace of God which brings salvation has appeared to ALL men. How a person responds to that determines the level of revelation and faith he is then given. There can never be any boasting at all because we are given a gift - the giver has done it all in order to be able to give it - and we accept that gift through faith. We cannot boast because faith is not a “work” that makes a payment for sin. It is only through the blood of Christ that we are offered eternal life. There is nothing we CAN do to earn or merit it and that is why “it” (being saved by grace) is a gift.
Then why Baptize them ??
Because the church has taught that without baptism no one is saved.. DUH...or has the church changed its doctrine?
Let a grandfather tell a story about his granddaughter:
My oldest daughter will soon, God willing, give birth to a son. Her daughter is 5, and I asked her how things will change when the baby arrives. She told me she would still be her Daddy’s favorite.
“Oh really”, I said. “And why is that?”
She gave a knowing smile. “Because I’m the pretty one.”
Her brother isn’t born yet, but she is convinced she’ll be the favorite “Because I’m the pretty one.”
I think most Calvinists are like my granddaughter. It is totally outside of human experience that someone treats us special for no good reason. Even with a lottery, you have to pick the winning number.
So if you ask them why they are Elect...well, being a lot older than 5, they know they can’t tell ‘the truth’. So they give a knowing smile, and shrug their shoulders, and say, “Just because”...but you can see they think, “Because I’m the pretty one!”
Pride.
Non-Calvinists pretty much all will say the same thing - I saw I was awful, and wanted to be different. I was dirty, and wanted to be clean. I was filth, and ashamed, and repented.
When I was 13, I knew I didn’t like what I was and wanted to be different. I repented. I asked God to forgive me, to change me, to take me and do whatever he wanted. And God, true to his promise, did. And while I have failed him many times since, he has never failed me.
It takes a lot of imagination to get salvation by works out of that.
lol.
Maybe only "General Baptists."
8~)
I like Garfield's diet tip: Vegetables are a must on a diet. I suggest carrot cake, zucchini bread and pumpkin pie!
Beats me....
Like everything you have written today on this thread, you have this, too, backwards.
It is the Arminians who thinks he's the smartest, the most pious, the prettiest, because he makes the "free will" decision to believe.
The Calvinist says it is God who makes that decision and the believer lives out God's decision, through nothing in the believer. Through God's mercy alone.
I think you have a lot in common with your granddaughter. Two pretty peas in a pod.
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
As to your little anecdote that the behavior of other children led you to Christ, it doesn't wash either.Using that criterion, if they had beeen exemplary Mormons, you would then have become a Mormon. If Scientologists, one of them. If it was a party of monks, you'd be Buddhist.
There's a reson the New Testament is called The Revelation of Jesus Christ
lastly, you never will answer what the rock is that the Church is founded on will you?
Wrong. Calvinists believe children or those who die before birth are saved exactly the same way you and I are saved -- by grace.
We can't earn our salvation. Babies can't earn their salvation.
Grace is the supernatural act of God whereby He brings to Himself those who are His. God determines the length of our days. God is responsible for those babies; He is responsible for their short lifetimes. We can be confident He brings them all to Himself.
It's the Roman Catholic who worries that if a child is not baptized he will spend eternity in purgatory, away from the face of God.
Barbaric.
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