Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[Cronos]

Actually, it IS the other way around — ES’s group being one that curses and damns everyone and is filled with hate is actually led by the Prince of this world — hence the attacks on Christ and Christ’s Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic CHurch. As the enemy senses how futile his attacks are, he becomes shriller and squeakier and that’s what we find in the posts by the followers of this cult as they keep attacking The Church

[Cronos]

Actually, it IS the other way around — ES’s group being one that curses and damns everyone and is filled with hate is actually led by the Prince of this world — hence the attacks on Christ and Christ’s Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic CHurch. As the enemy senses how futile his attacks are, he becomes shriller and squeakier and that’s what we find in the posts by the followers of this cult as they keep attacking The Church

[MarkBsnr]

I’m not sure which is more clownish - the OPC, or their clown ministries as a mockery of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[stfassisi]

I ran across this article from last year from one of these wacky KJV only churches...

King James Only Advocates Set to Burn Bibles October 31st
http://paulwilkinson.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/king-james-only-advocates-set-to-burn-bibles-october-31st/

Excerpts..

CANTON, N.C. (October 13, 2009)—The Amazing Grace Baptist Church in Canton, N.C. will celebrate Halloween by burning Bibles that aren’t the King James Version, as well as music and books and anything else Pastor Marc Grizzard says is a satanic influence.

Among the authors whose books Grizzard plans to burn are well known ministers Rick Warren and Billy Graham because he says they have occasionally used Bibles other than the King James Version, which is the sole biblical source he considers infallible.

“We will also be burning Satan’s popular books written by heretics like Billy Graham, Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, John McArthur, James Dobson, Charles Swindoll, John Piper, Chuck Colson, Tony Evans, Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swagart, Mark Driskol, Franklin Graham, Bill Bright, Tim Lahaye, Paula White, T.D. Jakes, Benny Hinn, Joyce Myers, Brian McLaren, Robert Schuller, Mother Teresa, The Pope, Rob Bell, Erwin McManus, Donald Miller, Shane Claiborne, Brennan Manning (and) William Young.

During the book burning, according to the Web site, barbecued chicken, fried chicken and “all the sides” will be served.

I can only imagine what the chicken must have tasted like?

[Cronos]

I believe all of Scripture. Father, Son, Spirit are in Scripture. I’ve also mentioned all 3 repeatedly in my writings.

Then why would you support Unitarians who deny the divinity of Christ in the Trinity?

[presently no screen name]

Roman Catholics are unfamiliar with 95% of the NT.

So that's it. It sure explains that 'Christ is not there' post. The RCC really has them blinded and bound. And they say we former Catholics were poorly taught when they are unaware of the most basic teachings of Christianity.

Pity those who choose to live in bondage. Those that left understand the freedom 'in Christ'.

They err, not knowing the word of God nor the power of God.

How true and it is evident in their posts.

[Quix]

I see we have . . .

More wholesale falsehoods from the expert on same.

I just happen to think that most of the times you post to me, the most loving response, the best thing I can do is that I should reply with

REDEMPTIVE TRUTH.

Which, in this case is . . .

I have still not observed you apologize for this brazen untruth:

MarkBsnr:
“. . . and Quix’s outspoken
support for a hate document
that the original poster has apologized for.”

---

You may worship at the

icon to bearing false witness . . .

Proddys don’t.

[Cronos]

Really? Let's debate -- do you consider Unitarians, Seventh Day Adventists and Christian Scientists to be Christians? If you are Calvinist, would you agree with a Calvinist saying "Well, it's not surprising that you would reject this particular aspect of Wesley's free-will teachings. Free-Willer Theology certainly gets more repugnant to the Christian, the better one understands its inherently-Satanic nature."?

[MarkBsnr]

There really are remedial reading classes available.

Those comments are really some of the most idiotic that I have seen from the Protestant side here on FR. You may wish to take some theology classes. From some Christians.

You are now drinking buddies with Jesus? He's now your best pal each Friday down at the local pub?

[Cronos]

You see, the Apostles wrote the New Testament and decided what should go in and in what order. They then translated this into 17th century English and hid it away for 16 centuries. The great scholar King James I read over this and was delighted. He proclaimed it free from error and millions of The Reformed® emerged from their hiding places (they had been practicing "real" Christianity all along) and began to practice YOPIOS.

Strangely it seems that many of the QP group here may very well believe that and think there was some kind of great apostasy. We've had crew here like Iscool say that St. Augustus is "irrelevant" and that St. Ignatius of Antioch was imaginary!

[Cronos]

Nah, I'm talking of the Unitarian cult that was formed recently and now has the Universalists there. The Unitarians who deny the divinity of Christ in the Trinity.

Why exactly does your group, the Unitarians not believe in the Trinity and the divinity of Christ?

[MarkBsnr]

I just happen to think that most of the times you post to me, the most loving response, the best thing I can do is that I should reply with REDEMPTIVE TRUTH.

Yeah, I know. It's the best you can do.

[Cronos]

How about this to compare:

The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion — the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another.

Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God."

==> We believe that Christ WAS/IS/WILL FORVER BE God, 100% and 100% man, part of the Triune God. THat is a Christian belief.

Unitarians do not believe in the divinity of Christ as part of the Trinity.

[Jaded]

Actually I went first and got told I was violating the rules. No one wanted your street address. Why do you have to make a big deal out of it? What is there to hide?

I am Roman Catholic and you are .... pick one. Lutheran, Methodist, Southern Baptist, Independent Fundamentalist Baptist, Non-Denominational, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, Seventh Day Adventist, Mormon, ECLA, PCA, OPC, American Baptist, SSPX, Anglican, Church of Christ, Church of God, Assemblies of God, Four-Square, Pentecostal, American Catholic, Coptic, Nazarene, High Church, Low Church, Medium Church, Church of One, National Baptist, Mennonite, Church of the Brethren, Protestant, Evangelical, Reformed or not, Calvinist, Reformed Calvinist, Salvation Army, Amish ....

probly there are some missing...

[editor-surveyor]

The deception and darkness in your posts is undeniable.

Your idolatrous worship of the ancient “Queen of Heaven” under the proxy of “Mary” is chilling to Christians. Your pagan Trans substantiation is chilling to Christians.

If you were to repent from prayers to the false Mary, perhaps the Father would call you to his Son, and fill the emptyness that is so evident in your every communication here.

[editor-surveyor]

> “I am Roman Catholic and you are .... pick one.”

.
Christian!

Being Christian believers is what sets all of us apart from Catholics.
.

[Cronos]

Yes, the true Christians are leaving the ELCA and many are going to a traditional, orthodox Church, the LCMS, which is good.

There are other heretical groups like the PCUSA and the OPC but they are only 28,000 people as of 2005 and still showing a downward trend in adherents, Their own website http://opc.org/GA/73rd_GA_rpt_topical.html says":

In 2005 three congregations withdrew from the OPC to join the Presbyterian Church in America, one of which was a rather large congregation, resulting in a net loss of members for the OPC in 2005. The membership of the OPC has remained at about 28,000 for more than two years, which is a cause of concern.

The good thing about the latter is that it too is collapsing, thanks to the messages from the Former Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) ruling elder Paul M. Elliott who has been urging every OPCer to leave and is evidently having an effect so that soon that cult will wither away like the other cults.

[Natural Law]

"Something tells me that the clown lutheran church is ELCA..."

What possible difference could that make. You have steadfastly divided Christendom in to two distinct groups; Catholics and non-Cahtolics, and have boasted about the solidarity of the non-Cahtolics. It is a bed of your making, lie in it.

[Cronos]

Who are or were the Schullers? btw, the OPC too is heading for it’s third split — a Former Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) ruling elder Paul M. Elliott is leading this exodus to form a new acronym.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

Actually, the duplicity of your posts is undeniable. No, seriously, you double posted up there...I'd look up exactly which number it is, but I have to go murder some orphans to sacrifice to the Queen Mother Goddess Co-Redeemer or whatever other nonsense they need to pretend I do.