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To: Cronos; Jaded

The deception and darkness in your posts is undeniable.

Your idolatrous worship of the ancient “Queen of Heaven” under the proxy of “Mary” is chilling to Christians. Your pagan Trans substantiation is chilling to Christians.

If you were to repent from prayers to the false Mary, perhaps the Father would call you to his Son, and fill the emptyness that is so evident in your every communication here.


13,075 posted on 10/19/2010 1:04:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Cronos
Actually, the duplicity of your posts is undeniable. No, seriously, you double posted up there...I'd look up exactly which number it is, but I have to go murder some orphans to sacrifice to the Queen Mother Goddess Co-Redeemer or whatever other nonsense they need to pretend I do.
13,080 posted on 10/19/2010 1:12:14 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: editor-surveyor; Jaded
Your cults acceptance of strange beliefs like the ones below are abominable:
"Jesus knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him"

"God the Father is a person separate from the Holy Ghost. Totally separate. ...Do you know that the Holy Spirit has a soul and a body separate from that of Jesus and the Father? ...God the Father then is a triune being within Himself. He's a person, He has His own Spirit, He has a soul. …A soul is my intellect. …God thinks. …separate from the Son and separate from the Holy Ghost. …God the Father is a separate individual from the Son and the Holy Ghost, who is a triune being who walks in a spirit body and He has hair…has eyes…has a mouth…has hands"

"When you were born again the Word was made flesh in you. And you became flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. Don't tell me you have Jesus. You are everything He was and everything He is and ever shall be... Don't say, 'I have.' Say, 'I am, I am, I am, I am, I am'" (ibid.) "When you say, 'I am a Christian,' you are saying, 'I am mashiach,' in the Hebrew. I am a little messiah walking on earth, in other words. That is a shocking revelation. ...May I say it like this? You are a little god on earth running around"
Your group's pagan beliefs are chilling to Christians. Leave the worship of the devil behind and come to Christ, in Christ's Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church
13,096 posted on 10/19/2010 1:30:02 PM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: editor-surveyor; Jaded
And, of course, your group needs to reject Satan and return to Christ -- this is what we have been preaching for 2000 years as evidenced by the writings of St. Ignatius of Antioch (AD 35 to 108)
In the course of the second half of the first century, however, a consistent terminology for these Church offices was becoming fixed. The letters of St. Ignatius of Antioch make clear that leadership in the Christian community, in all the Churches, is exercised by an order of "bishops, presbyters, and deacons" (To the Trallians 3:2; To Polycarp 6:1). Of these designations, bishop comes from the Greek episkopos, meaning "overseer"; presbyter from the Greek presbyteros, "elder"; and deacon from the Greek diakonos, "servant" or "minister".

Thus, from that time on, these were the offices in what was already an institutional, hierarchical Church (this is not to imply that the Church was ever anything but institutional and hierarchical, only that the evidence for these characteristics had become unmistakably clear by this time).

By the way, the term priest (Greek: hierus) does not seem to have been used at first for the Christian presbyter; the nonuse of this particular term in the earliest years of the Church was due to the need to distinguish the Christian priesthood of the new dispensation from the Jewish Temple priests, who were still functioning up to the time of the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Romans in the year 70 A.D. After that time, the use of the word priest for those ordained in Christ began to be more and more common.

St. Ignatius of Antioch did not know of any such thing as a "Church" that was merely an assemblage of like-minded people who believed themselves to have been moved by the Spirit. The early Christians were moved by the Spirit to join the Church, the established visible, institutional, sacerdotal, and hierarchical Church-the only kind St. Ignatius of Antioch would ever have recognized as the Church.

And it was for this visible, institutional, sacerdotal, and hierarchical Church--an entity purveying both the word and sacraments of Jesus--that this early bishop was willing to give himself up to be torn apart by wild beasts in the arena. He wrote to St. Polycarp words that were also meant for the latter's flock in Smyrna: "Pay attention to the bishop so that God will pay attention to you. I give my life as a sacrifice (poor as it is) for those who are obedient to the bishop, the presbyters, and the deacons" (6:1). To the Trallians he wrote: "You cannot have a Church without these" (3:2).

St. Ignatius certainly did not fail to recognize that, in one of today's popular but imprecise formulations, "the people are the Church." His letters were intended to teach, admonish, exhort, and encourage none other than "the people". But he also understood that each one of "the people" entered the Church through a sacred rite of baptism, and thereafter belonged to a group in which the bishop, in certain respects and for certain purposes, resembled, on the one hand, the father of a family and, on the other, a monarch--more than some democratically elected leaders.

13,099 posted on 10/19/2010 1:32:34 PM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: editor-surveyor; Jaded
And, no matter how much the Lord of your group, Satan, tries to attack Christ and Christ's Church, your group won't succeed -- the enemy has been trying this for 2000 years and never got anywhere!

St. Augustine wrote it quite well when he said
"This Church is Holy, the One Church, the True Church, the Catholic Church, fighting as she does against all heresies. She can fight, but she cannot be beaten. All heresies are expelled from her, like the useless loppings pruned from a vine. She remains fixed in her root, in her vine, in her love. The gates of hell shall not conquer her."

Sermon to Catechumens, on the Creed, 6,14, 395 A.D.

13,100 posted on 10/19/2010 1:34:42 PM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: editor-surveyor
Your idolatrous worship of the ancient “Queen of Heaven” under the proxy of “Mary” is chilling to Christians. Your pagan Trans substantiation is chilling to Christians.

If you were to repent from prayers to the false Mary, perhaps the Father would call you to his Son, and fill the emptyness that is so evident in your every communication here.

AMEN!

God willing.

"Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen." -- 1 Timothy 1:17

13,291 posted on 10/19/2010 10:27:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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