Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
No they do not..the genealogies of the Levitical line was kept in the Temple.. The Jewish priesthood, like the catholic priesthood ..was seen as a special set aside people as they had a special access to God that ordinary people did not have.. that "special "access was destroyed at the cross, the curtain was rent and access to God open to all that believe.. that is the priesthood of the believer..no more holier or set aside priests
Please read the book of Nehemiah to understand the absolute necessity for a PURE levitical line of Levites.
Thanks for pinging me.
Refreshing.
Do you know what the book of life was? It was a list of citizens born in a Jewish city .
My name is in that book Mark, because I have been born again.. I am a citizen of heaven
Read your scripture again Mark ..when he said that it resulted in men walking away.. they did not walk away when he told them to eat his body..they understood the metaphor even if catholics do not
lol. They spend a lot of time sending others to chase down various posts. Any diversion will do.
Parishes that are more conservative and more traditional tend to be the ones growing. People are tired of the “Prosperity Gospel” of televangelists, charlatans and people like Joel Osteen. The “Jesus is my buddy and pal and he’ll be with me no matter what ditch I wallow in” ain’t working anymore.
What an odd question.
We are, as are all Christians, ingrafted into the line of Abraham.
When I do what I am called to do. Even the bible says you can lose your salvation.
I seriously doubt that. What preacher twisted scripture badly enough to convince anyone that they are a citizen of heaven?
Furthermore, the Levites and Cohens of the present day share DNA that identifies them, for the coming time of the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. The lineage of the Jewish priesthood still exists.
Why is it an odd question to people who appear to say God voided His covenant with the Jews?
Off to glitter, boys and girls.
It helps to have such cataloged.
He did no such thing.
He fulfilled it!
The ultimate question, that is, the validity, if any, of the priesthood is one of truth, clearly. the ultimate question of every argument is the truth, I'd guess.
But this argument (or this section of it) was about the practice of the early Church, and the Didache, etc. were adduced to address that argument.
If you want to say that it doesn't matter what the practice of the early church was, then it doesn't matter whether the Didache and Irenaeus were inspired or not.
If you want to say that the early Church went off the rails, then whatever the practices proved (or not) by the Didache and Ireneaus, they would be irrelevant.
If you want to say that you at almost 2000 years remove know more about what went on in the early Church than people far closer to it, then we have to assess the likelihood of that proposition.
But if all you want to do is to say that your way is right, and that's it, then what are we doing here?
Surely the truth would include some kind of openness and clarity in argument. If not, then we are talking gnosticism, pure and simple -- some have the experience, are introduced to the mysteries, and have the light; others don't.
Then conversation is reduced to people trying to drown one another out, which is tedious.
That assumes that
- Rome is pagan;
- the priesthood of the Church is or claims to be the same as the priesthood (which one? there were several) of the Jews;
- that the sacrifice of the Mass is the same as the sacrifices of the Jews.
It may make you feel good to say so, but it is not persuasive.
That is a false characterization of our teaching on the priesthood. The laywoman Catherine of Siena, and the "religious" sister Terese of Lisieux enjoyed a special intimacy with God, but one which is only proleptic. That is, all the blessed will enjoy such intimacy some day.
What priests have is a special authority.
This is a critical misunderstanding. It would indeed be outrageous to suggest that clergy, by virtue of their order enjoyed more blessedness than the laity. But, as has been pointed out before, not only did Dante put clerics and even popes in hell, but no one said it was heretical of him to do so.
The attraction and growth of the more conservative and traditional parishes (and orders, and diocese) was my impression also, but I don’t have any hard data. All I know is what I see around me.
If you are numbered among Christ's sheep, no one can pluck you from His hands.
How do we know we belong to Christ? By receiving faith in Him as Lord, God and Savior.
By the Holy Spirit, those who belong to Him will persevere to the end.
As I like to say (and to think, and to pray about) monotheism, although it is the only thing that makes sense, is intellectually and spiritually immensely demanding; and the One God, blessed be He, is very rewarding!
The gates of Hell prevailed very soon. You also have some problems in "ordaining" with:
God destroys priesthood A = good; God creates priesthood B = bad."
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