Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Amen (though I prefer to refer to him as “the false bishop of Rome.”)
Because a comparison of your church's reading and the Mass reading add context.
Is it verboten to read from the Gospels in your church?
You've already said you're referring to me in this post.
Accusing someone of being "untruthful" is against the rules of the FR RF, Mark. You've been told this by the RM many, many times.
Try to follow the rules. Most of us have, and you can too, if you put your mind to it.
But many of them "owned" the Popes and the Papacy.
Find them yourself. You’re the one so interested in them.
First, defend the claim that the Bible is read in it's entirety during Mass.
Is it verboten to read from the Gospels in your church?
That is a very stupid question. Do you know what Unitarian is?
Hey, the rabbis knew they were going beyond the stated law -- "building a fence around the Torah" is the term; psychologically sound, I think. And it's not "no meat and dairy in the same kitchen" -- even the orthodox have only one refrigerator. And they keep both meat and dairy in it (separate shelves).
Also, it helps to remember that, while the odds against someone who buys his milk from a supermarket and his meat from a kosher butcher inadvertantly mixing the meat with the milk of the animal's mother are beyond astronomical, this wasn't true when the norm was the tiny family farm.
Now back to your regularly scheduled . . . whatever! ;-)
I have to fix this for you,dear MD...
Final (teleological) cause: So we can play baseball — and "get beaten" by the Yankees :)
""You might say His formal cause is Himself""
From Saint Thomas Aquinas..
EVERY one desires the perfection of that which for its own sake he wills and loves: for the things which we love for their own sakes we wish to be excellent, and ever better and better, and to be multiplied as much as possible. But God wills and loves His essence for its own sake. Now that essence is not augmentable and multipliable in itself , but can be multiplied only in its likeness, which is shared by many. God therefore wills the multitude of things, inasmuch as He wills and loves His own perfection.
Whoever loves anything in itself and for itself, wills consequently all things in which that thing is found: as he who loves sweetness in itself must love all sweet things. But God wills and loves His own being in itself and for itself; and all other being is a sort of participation by likeness of His being.
The will follows the understanding. But God with His understanding understands Himself in the first place, and in Himself understands all other things: therefore in like manner He wills Himself in the first place, and in willing Himself wills all other things.
This is confirmed by the authority of Holy Scripture: Thou lovest all things that are, and hatest nothing of the things that thou hast made (Wisd. xi, 2)
LOL. See? It's pretty constant. That's two just in the past few hours.
Judith, you should thank 1000silverlings for doing your homework.
Not to worry, Mark. We’ve located three just in the past few hours.
Some kind of flakey fruity/nutty cheesey pastry that's half baked and unusually bitter?
I don't know if that's what it IS NOW but I'm gonna make a phone call and that's what it WILL BE. Not gonna be many orders for it probably...
Glancing quickly over the first part of your post, though, I had the fleeting question "Aquinas wrote about the Yankees???"
And I'm from Boston, so -- though I'm no sports fan -- my inclination is to go with Mad Dawg's version! ;-)
But actually being untruthful is against God's rules. You should put more emphasis on those rules. Most of us have, and you can too if you put your mind to it.
You've already said you're referring to me in this post.
Actually, I didn't. However, your words go a long way of convicting their author. Thank you for the clarification.
Accusing someone of being "untruthful" is against the rules of the FR RF, Mark. You've been told this by the RM many, many times.
Many, many times? Let's see. How many times would that be? It's turned out that a claim by you of 'hundreds, if not thousands' of times turned out to be once. Does "many, many times" mean "once" in the current Dr. E. vocabulary, or is it now some other number?
Try to follow the rules.
I do not take or eschew action at the bidding of the likes of you. Oh, and how is your Richard Bucket these days?
Three? I posted this: I cannot believe this of the good Dr. E. I don't believe that she would be disruptive any more than I think that she would be unChristian.
Are you saying that you guys found three of your disruptions? Or three instances of you being unChristian. Please be clear and use quotes to show what you mean, if only for the sake of clarity.
Yes, I do know what UU is, it's principles, etc. I was just reading the UU website article Our humanist legacy:
""Perhaps in no denomination but Unitarianism, with its aversion to creeds and dogmas, could such a frankly nontheistic movement as religious humanism have arisen without provoking a schism…"I guess if the Gospel were read in church from a atheistic-tolerant point of view it would be acceptable, or maybe if balanced with Humanist reading, Certainly not any requirement for the exclusivity of Christian Scripture or the divinity of Christ would conform to UU principles. Be happy to hear your experience relative to (Christian) scripture reading in your church.
Heck, I'm invested!
Better be careful that market is not too secure :)
LOL!Of course-they are the closest any sports teams can get to perfection in winning 27 championships
And I'm from Boston, so -- though I'm no sports fan -- my inclination is to go with Mad Dawg's version! ;-)
Great city.In fact, my daughter just moved there and is converting from methodist to Greek Orthodox,thanks to the help of a Orthodox freeper
As for the Red Sox... they aint close to ever winning as much as the Yanks :)
As a resut of what Mark???
Read the words Mark..they did not leave when He spoke of bread..just like men today..they walked away when Jesus taught election .
What was their former way of life Mark? THE LAW ..salvation by the law.. .... they liked being in charge of their own salvation... men hate to have to let God be God. Just like eve, they want a piece of the divine action ...
Fig leaves Mark...just fig leaves
Paul does not subscribe to the Nicene Trinitarian view of Christianity. Neither do the Synoptic Gospels, by the way. It is in John that we find some evidence of the Triune God, with the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit co equal, co existing, and co eternal members of One God. Paul definitely is not Trinitarian." -- Posted by MarkBsnr on April 24, 2010.
Find me the post number and the thread that you claim that I posted this, please. I want to make sure that you didn't change anything that I posted. You have been known to do this before. I am not accusing Gamecock of falsification, please note.
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