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To: RnMomof7
No it is a matter of truth and if dogma is not built on truth it is a lie..

The ultimate question, that is, the validity, if any, of the priesthood is one of truth, clearly. the ultimate question of every argument is the truth, I'd guess.

But this argument (or this section of it) was about the practice of the early Church, and the Didache, etc. were adduced to address that argument.

If you want to say that it doesn't matter what the practice of the early church was, then it doesn't matter whether the Didache and Irenaeus were inspired or not.

If you want to say that the early Church went off the rails, then whatever the practices proved (or not) by the Didache and Ireneaus, they would be irrelevant.

If you want to say that you at almost 2000 years remove know more about what went on in the early Church than people far closer to it, then we have to assess the likelihood of that proposition.

But if all you want to do is to say that your way is right, and that's it, then what are we doing here?

Surely the truth would include some kind of openness and clarity in argument. If not, then we are talking gnosticism, pure and simple -- some have the experience, are introduced to the mysteries, and have the light; others don't.

Then conversation is reduced to people trying to drown one another out, which is tedious.

11,134 posted on 10/13/2010 7:25:57 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; RnMomof7
Good point:
But this argument (or this section of it) was about the practice of the early Church, and the Didache, etc. were adduced to address that argument.

If you want to say that it doesn't matter what the practice of the early church was, then it doesn't matter whether the Didache and Irenaeus were inspired or not.

If you want to say that the early Church went off the rails, then whatever the practices proved (or not) by the Didache and Ireneaus, they would be irrelevant.

If you want to say that you at almost 2000 years remove know more about what went on in the early Church than people far closer to it, then we have to assess the likelihood of that proposition.

But if all you want to do is to say that your way is right, and that's it, then what are we doing here?
Exactly -- Those posts seem to want to say that someone 2000 years later knows more about the lives and practises of Early Christians than they (the Early Christians) themselves knew and wrote about!
11,231 posted on 10/14/2010 1:36:22 AM PDT by Cronos (Ojciec i Syn i Duch Swiety)
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