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Is it "Catholic" or "Roman Catholic?" <Vanity><Ecumenical>

Posted on 02/26/2010 1:08:31 AM PST by Gamecock

So I have a question about terminology.

Some of our Catholic FRiends get upset when we Prods use the term Roman Catholic, insisting that the term is derogatory, insulting, etc.

What I would like to discuss is why do Catholics complain about the term Roman Catholic, when the term is in such wide use inside of the Catholic church?

Thoughts?


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: catholic; ignorance; romancatholic
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Sadly, that is (has been) correct. It’s hard to replace priests, I guess. Gotta hang on to ‘em as best they can.


301 posted on 02/28/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Natural Law; Poe White Trash; Dr. Eckleburg
The point is not that anyones clergy is better or worse than anyone elses...

I disagree...that seems to always be the point with the Catholic religion. The priests, bishops, popes...are all supposed to be taking Christ's place on earth. They are put upon pedestals as representatives of "the One, True, Holy Church against which the gates of hell will not prevail" - if memory serves me. They are supposed to be superior to any other Christian minister and, in fact, we hear over and over how all those "Protestants" are inferior to the "true" ministers of The Church. So when this Only, Real, True above-the-heathens Church lets her slip show...people notice.

302 posted on 02/28/2010 11:41:24 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

Sounds to me like you have a severe case of Croiser envy.


303 posted on 02/28/2010 11:51:12 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Dr. Eckleburg


When Roman Catholic priests sin, they are shuffled off to another unsuspecting parish where the abuse continues for decades.




AND it all gets swept under the rug.  The REAL figures are unknown, and will probably remain unknown.

304 posted on 03/01/2010 12:04:08 AM PST by Bikkuri ( I dreamed I ate a giant marshmallow. When I woke up, my pillow was missing.)
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To: Natural Law
Sounds to me like you have a severe case of Croiser envy.

I try to stick with organic raisin bran, personally. Croisers can be a bit too greasy. :o)

305 posted on 03/01/2010 12:14:50 AM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
Something just tells me that ain't gonna be acceptable either.

I have a hunch you're right. Now if I was the Pope... :O)

306 posted on 03/01/2010 1:57:03 AM PST by HarleyD (Hating the "syner", loving the "-gist".)
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To: boatbums

The denial of the Eucharist and the denial of the Episcopal authority are two characteristic heresies of Protestantism as well, so I don’t think so.


307 posted on 03/01/2010 5:40:13 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Natural Law
Yah, I looked him up, too. Jenkins appears to be more like an RC apologist than a "neutral" sociologist.

I'm sceptical, too, but I'm going to get Jenkins' book and check it out myself. And post what I find.

308 posted on 03/01/2010 6:09:46 AM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: John Leland 1789
"Since Catholicism in various regions of the world, it would appear, adopt into it localisms and regionalisms in religious matters, structure, who may be admitted and who is restricted, etc."

What you describe is the essence of Catholicism.

This is the practice that led the Roman church to embrace the same ancient idolatry that got Israel into trouble constantly, simply renaming Ashta as Mary. - We see it presently in Haiti where the local Voodoo was absorbed into the church.
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309 posted on 03/01/2010 7:40:32 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: boatbums

lolol


310 posted on 03/01/2010 7:41:33 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: narses; Poe White Trash
One of the big differences is we do not claim a "special relationship" with God for our Pastors .We do not see them as standing in for Christ or a part of the apostolic line.

We know our Pastors are sinners just like us and they do not have "special" access to the throne of God.They, like the people they pastor, are sinners in need of a Savior..

Is there sexual abuse in Protestant churches?? I would expect to see the same sin in the church we see outside. The difference is that we out it..we do not spend millions of donated dollars to hide it and cover it up and keep allowing access to kids for our names sake..

The shame of Catholicism starts at the top and drips down.. The Vatican has been aware of this issue and worked to cover it up..without thought for the well being of all those altar boys that they converted to future predators or homosexual men

311 posted on 03/01/2010 7:41:43 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: boatbums; Dr. Eckleburg

The real difference seems to be in the area of accountability.

With protestants, there is always clear action taken when the offense is brought into the light, while for the RC, it is the usual deeply cloaked secret shuffle.


312 posted on 03/01/2010 7:46:16 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: annalex; boatbums
"The denial of the Eucharist and the denial of the Episcopal authority are two characteristic heresies of Protestantism..."

If rejection of those two Nicolaitan Blasphemies are heresy, then the Lord must love heresy.

313 posted on 03/01/2010 7:51:07 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: big'ol_freeper

What is the main difference between Eastern Orthodox Church and the RC Church other than priest can marry and they have a different leader?


314 posted on 03/01/2010 7:53:04 AM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: Perdogg; NYer

I am going to ping NYer on this because she would give you a much more accurate and thorough answer than I could. I am a Latin Rite Catholic, which is the biggest rite in the Church.

Basically when the great schism took place between the eastern and western Church, the eastern churches (Eastern Orthodox, Russian Orthodox etc.) broke from western Church. The Orthodox do not recognize the primacy of the Western Patriarch (Bishop of Rome/Pope by other names) But for each of the Orthodox Churches there were believers who either did not break or later came back to communion with the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) so many of the rites of the Catholic Church resemble in practice the Orthodox churches. One example is the Eastern Orthodox and the Eastern Rite Catholics. So basically for every Orthodox Church there is an equivalent Catholic rite.

NYer will correct and add to what I posted I am sure.


315 posted on 03/01/2010 1:50:53 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Perdogg

Oh I didn’t really answer your question. Their liturgy is somewhat different. They celebrate The Divine Liturgy instead of The Mass, although they do essentially the same thing. Orthodox priests do marry as do most rites within the Catholic Church. I believe (although I might be wrong) it is only Latin Rite Catholic priests who practice the discipline of celibacy and don’t marry, although there are even many married Latin Rite priests who have converted from Lutheran and Anglican Churches.


316 posted on 03/01/2010 1:57:51 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Judith Anne

How about the priests who run orphanages in Ireland? I guess they don’t count...


317 posted on 03/01/2010 3:54:52 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: editor-surveyor

In Taiwan many Taxi drivers have a Mary-like figurine on their dashboards that is actually an Asian mystical godess. It’s “interesting” to them (to us too) to watch Catholics get in these taxis and cross themselves, not knowing the difference!


318 posted on 03/01/2010 4:20:26 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: John Leland 1789

I’m sure that form the Lord’s point of view, there isn’t any difference.


319 posted on 03/01/2010 4:24:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor

Correct. No difference. Same source.


320 posted on 03/01/2010 4:28:43 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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