Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
That's an amazing admission.
Only a mother who has sufferred for her children could begin to understand that there is no human suffferring greater than hers. I truly felt her presence when I needed it. Like an angel. God sends us what we need, when we need it. I wouldn't dare tell you how to worship. I only ask that you have understanding and compassion for your sisters and brothers in Christ, Catholics.
It’s from 2000 interview by Peter Seewald which he documents in his book “God and the World”.
I’ll see if it’s online someplace.
I’m sure the meaning was understood...LOL.
Don’t let them get to you. The Blessed Mother is a very special gift that Jesus left us. I don’t care how many people post on here trying to say she is not. I have felt her as well in my darkest hours. She points the way back to her Son. They will never understand and maybe that is the way He wants it.
I do have understanding and compassion for Catholics. I know what you have been taught about Mary and how you revere her. As a mother, I too understand how she suffered. I have no problem with that. I have a problem with the fact that way too many good Catholics put her on an equal keel with Jesus, our Saviour. Yes, she was His mother and we know she was blessed by God, but that’s where it ends. She was a sinner saved by grace, like you and I. She died and was buried, like you and I will be. I know it’s against your teachings and I’m sorry that what I say doesn’t agree with your viewpoint about her.
We don’t agree with you. So it is what it is.
Gotcha! I’m really not bothered. I just wish our love of all things “God” were understood. Like my daughter says, “sharing is caring”.
Catholicism doesn't teach that.
She was a sinner saved by grace, like you and I. She died and was buried, like you and I will be.
Thank you for sharing your own personal interpretation of Scripture.
Hint: Research the development of "Sola Scriptura".
I hear you loud and clear! One good thing does come out of these endless debates. It makes me love her and everything about our Church all the more. :)
TCRNews.com, 10/5/02-—Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said he does not think there will be any Church compliance with the request of some Catholics that the Blessed Virgin Mary be named “Co-redemptrix” in the history of salvation. Ratzinger made the comments in an interview with German journalist Peter Seewald which has been published in book form by Ignatius Press entitled God and the World.
Ratzinger said, “ I do not think there will be any compliance with this demand, which in the meantime is being supported by several million people, within the foreseeable future. The response of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is, broadly, that what is signified by this is already better expressed in other titles of Mary, while the formula “Co-redemptrix” departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings.
The Cardinal continues: “What is true here? Well, it is true that Christ does not remain outside us or to one side of us, but builds a profound and new community with us. Everything that is his becomes ours, and everything that is ours he has taken upon himself, so that it becomes his: this great exchange is the actual content of redemption, the removal of limitations from our self and its extension into community with God. Because Mary is the prototype of the Church as such and is, so to say, the Church in person, this being “with” is realized in her in exemplary fashion.
“But this “with” must not lead us to forget the “first” of Christ: Everything comes from Him, as the Letter to the Ephesians and the Letter to Colossians, in particular, tell us; Mary, too, is everything that she is through Him.
“The word ‘Co-redemptrix,’” Ratzinger went on to say, “would obscure this origin. For matters of faith, continuity of terminology with the language of Scripture and that of the Fathers is itself an essential element; it is improper simply to manipulate language.” (God and the World, Ignatius Press, San Francisco, 2000 )
Here is a link to the book
Mary was human, saved from original sin. Jesus was perfect like God. There is a big difference. I’m sure neither of us is qualified to determine whether Mary was a sinner or not. Does it really matter? Why all these distraction from our God who gave us everything to begin with.
We are sooo blessed. So many gifts that God has given us. To whom much is given, much is expected. I was like a spoiled brat who took everything for granted. Like you, I realize, how blessed I have been. God is good!
We are indeed, very Blessed. Very happy Catholic.
My personal feelings, that I share with you, are mine. We all learn mostly through our family and our personal experiences. Our masses come directly from the bible. We are not this bizarre cult that for some reason you perceive. I am a woman and a mother just like you. I am pretty much able to see Jesus in every one. My husband, who I sense is like you, distrusts all non-Catholics as being cultish. I sort of understand where you are coming from, but you are mistaken. Perhaps it was you who’s “teachings” interpret something mistakingly.
The question is based on an absolute falsehood, thus is impossible to answer.
1. John Wycliffe, died 1384, in 1428 he was convicted by the Council of Constance of heresy for teaching Sola Scripture. His bones were dug up and burned.
2. John Hus. Burned at the stake in 1414. Heresy. Sola Scriptura.
ST. AUGUSTINE OF HIPPO* (354-430)
In those things which are clearly laid down in Scripture, all those things are found which pertain to faith and morals. (De Doct. Chr. 2:9)
Whatever you hear from them [the Scriptures], let that be well received by you. Whatever is without them refuse, lest you wander in a cloud. (De Pastore, 11)
All those things which in times past our ancestors have mentioned to be done toward mankind and have delivered unto us: all those things also which we see and deliver to our posterity, so far as they pertain to the seeking and maintaining true religion, the Holy Scripture has not passed over in silence. (Ep. 42)
Whatever our Saviour would have us read of his actions and sayings he commanded his apostles and disciples, as his hands, to write. (De Consensu Evang. 1:ult.)
Sola Scriptura!
If Augustine had lived a thousand years later he would have recanted this "heresy" or died a fiery death.
Now you know the story. To claim "Sola Scriptura" was a 16th century invention is to lie.
Where in the bible does it say, that only the bible must be adhered to? We have had so many visitations, so many people enlightened by the Holy Spirit. (I, a Catholic, enjoy Rick Warren). I can’t believe we are denied additional “lights”.
You and others say this often. I haven't really seen it, but I haven't been in the Philippines or the other places. (It always seems to happen far away from where I am.)
I'm not clear on how that's the fault of the Church. Are we to blame if some Catholics are secret atheists or read and believe their horoscopes?
Before anyone goes to light a candle or whatever, you we submit them to some kind of theological "inventory"?
I WILL say that de Montfort is NOT for beginners. I happen to enjoy him and his enthusiasm, but the boy is NOT a theologian. I would agree with him that any Christian's life would be better if he prayed the Rosary the correct way, which mean meditating on the mysteries, not just blah blah blah.
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