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DNA and the Dead Sea Scrolls how do the pieces fit!
BYU TV ^ | 1998 | Scott Woodward

Posted on 09/15/2007 11:47:41 AM PDT by restornu

Click Video- Learn how DNA was able to sort out and match the DDS fragments



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To: restornu

two things...

1. you did NOT answer the question

2. you wrote....”There is only One name that was given by the Lord of how his Church should be called and that is

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints”

My comment to you... Never in the Bible is it called that.

CONCLUSION: Why in the world should your claim of truth have
any credibility since it is subjective and is identical to
Warren Jeffs’ claim?

ampu


461 posted on 09/21/2007 10:05:31 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Because they were called Saints in those day and Latter Day Saints for the last days!

Occupy your mind all you want with Warren Jeff I have better things to do!


462 posted on 09/21/2007 10:39:14 AM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing!)
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To: GLDNGUN
Actually, those were different sites. It’s from fairwiki, not FAIR. Perhaps I need to compile them all into a bigger quote index for your viewing pleasure.

There are so many...

;-)

463 posted on 09/21/2007 12:02:43 PM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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To: Elsie
He did NOT say... Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become one of us, to know good and evil:

Oh, he didn't?

Dude, (Mormon variety ;-0) you really need to not post scriptures like that before reading them in order to prove your point, they do just the opposite. Let's look at both passages again, and I will bold and underline them to show you where you err.

Genesis 3: 5 (SATAN TALKING HERE)

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Genesis 3: 22 (GOD TALKING HERE)

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Let's be clear about what they both said, both used the phrase "as Gods", or "as one of us"

you were saying...?

464 posted on 09/21/2007 12:15:28 PM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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To: restornu

Again, you did not answer the issue I raised. I imagine
you have not answer.

Here it was to refresh your mind...

“Why in the world should your claim of truth have
any credibility since it is subjective and is identical
to Warren Jeffs’ claim?”

You can dislike Jeffs, but the question raises a valid
point that you can’t address.

ampu


465 posted on 09/21/2007 12:15:43 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: JRochelle

And this body is increasing in size to handle them all!


467 posted on 09/21/2007 12:22:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
You have proof? In a printed newspaper that was not edited by Joseph Smith? What kind of proof is that?

And I have shown you that all pre T&S account's show just the opposite. I have shown you plainly that all prior references to the T&S article mention Moroni. If you have something to prove, please, by all means, dig it up.

I think perhaps you are a closet liberal and don’t belong FR. You must take everything the NY Times says as gospel truth because it’s “printed”.

468 posted on 09/21/2007 12:23:19 PM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You keep holding their feet to the fire like this and they’ll have burnt feet!


469 posted on 09/21/2007 12:24:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
Let's be clear about what they both said, both used the phrase "as Gods", or "as one of us"

Wow!

What insight!!

I missed it indeed!

471 posted on 09/21/2007 12:28:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I think you may be confusing "all nations" as having a separate standard or dispensation from God. What was Jeremiah promised by the Lord? That he would be a prophet unto the nations. Jer. 1: 5 5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

I believe Jeremiah was not only a prophet to Israel, but also to us, the gentiles, and all who seek God's word. So I find no difference in what Nephi is saying here. His prophets speak for the whole earth, and who knows how many he has had, only he knows.

473 posted on 09/21/2007 12:30:53 PM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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To: restornu

“I don’t care to entertain the thoughts of fools!”

or rather, you are advocating a foolish view of how
people are to know truth.

You cannot explain how your subjective “truth claim”
differs from that of Warren Jeffs, Mormon.

You cannot explain how your subjective “truth claim”
differs from an Islamic Whirling Dervish.

You cannot explain how your subjective “truth claim”
differs from Reverend Sun Myon Moon and every Moonie
in existence.

You cannot explain how your claims of subjective “truth”
are any different than any other cultic group - including
the breakaway Mormon group that the “prophet” Warren Jeffs
heads up.

Can you?

It is easier to respond with an insult than to attempt to
explain that which you are claiming in these threads is
the basis of truth - your own subjective experience.

Yet you are appealing to it over and over and over.

We are left to conclude you follow the Old Testament
passage, “There was no King in Israel. Every man did what
was right in his own eyes.”

Fortunately, there is a King today and we have His word.

Have a good weekend,
ampu


474 posted on 09/21/2007 12:32:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: sevenbak
I think perhaps you are a closet liberal and don’t belong FR. You must take everything the NY Times says as gospel truth because it’s “printed”.

Is this an insult?

If not, then...

I think perhaps you are a closet [blank] and don’t belong FR. You must take everything LDS headquarters says as gospel truth because it’s “printed” by them.

475 posted on 09/21/2007 12:33:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; restornu

It was a different tarbaby I didn’t want to touch!

I like Resty - even when she is wrong in what she writes.


476 posted on 09/21/2007 12:34:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie

funny haha, but what do you really think of C.S. Lewis’s quote? I would honestly like to know your opinion?


477 posted on 09/21/2007 12:34:43 PM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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To: Elsie
For a minute there, I thought that was actually a compliment.

sigh...

Yes, Gods, (speaking in the plural form btw) said man had become as one of them.

We could continue this ad nauseum, but I get to leave and go see my family.

Cheers

478 posted on 09/21/2007 12:38:27 PM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

These are not break aways they never were apart of the Lord Church nor excommunitcate he is a non member!

Anyone can set up camp and claim a lot of things this man ruled with the arm of man and God never shine on his house.

The Spirit of the Lord shines in many houses on earth Warren wasn’t one of them!

There are a group like you who gets their jollies by baiting the LDS with their ulgy thinking!


479 posted on 09/21/2007 12:40:07 PM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I think surely I must be the tar baby you refer to, and I am probably the best one here to address this issue because I’m smack dab in the middle of it.

I have been covering the Warren Jeffs trial here in St. George since the beginning. I have had to listen to the minutia details, all witnesses, both sides, for the last 2 weeks.

I will be happy to give you an in depth discussion of why there are not even close, but that will take time. And as I haven’t seen my family for 2 weeks, they will now come first.
I’ll be back on Monday!

Cheers, from this tar baby.

480 posted on 09/21/2007 12:44:24 PM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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