Posted on 06/14/2006 7:50:30 AM PDT by marshmallow
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This is very sad. We know a good, orthodox, hard-working priest here in Florida who really had to struggle, first of all to get ordained (his anti-homosexual attitudes in the notorious diocesan seminary resulted in his being forced to wait another year for ordination) and then to get assigned anywhere. When we got a new bishop, this priest was finally assigned to a rural parish and is now the pastor there, although he feels he has to tread very carefully so that nobody will consider him a - gasp - "traditionalist." He's too young even to have known the "tradition" that is supposedly so dangerous (Tridentine Rite Mass), but that's code for "orthodox," which is apparently now a bad thing in the minds of many Catholics.
Another good priest we know keeps his association with Opus Dei a deep dark secret. He's not a member, but goes to their retreats and knows some priests who are members - and he said he'd be run out of town by the pastor and the dread "permanent deacons" if they ever knew about it. He's also young.
Very sad, we have to pray for these men and encourage them.
Pray for our priests!!!!!!
Wow, are you sure she's not writing about the Archdiocese of Boston? Cases in point:
When I worked there they hired CCS, the most vile company I have ever come in contact with. One employee was virulently anti-Catholic while others spent their time making fun of the Pastors in meetings...the full gamut.
Not to mention the nights they spent out drinking and whoring on the Diocese dime at expensive steakhouses and bars then comparing hang overs during business meetings the next day.
When I complained about their behavior, including offensive comments they made about Clergy and the teachings of the Church which I found offensice, I got yelled at.
Another instance: A Priest I know who's been out for two years trying to get reinstated was told by the Archdiocese that he had no right to due process and that he should disappear and stop making waves or else he was violating his vow of obedience.
It's only gotten worse since the new guy came in.
What's that quote? "The road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops"
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In my own diocese, one of our exiled priests is back in the diocese but has been internally exiled to the middle of nowhere. But still, what a wonderful opportunity for those in his charge to have such a holy and learned man be priest among them.
Which is not to say, 'hate your bishops.' As Jesus said of the Pharisees, don't do like they do. And as Mary Ann Kreitzer says, build up your good priests, praise them conspicuously, laud them to the bishop, hold them up in public and in private. And pray for them. Seriously.
The survival of many souls depends on our support of "the good guys."
What a sad injustice. Suffice to say, these agenda-driven bishops will one day be naked before God. In the meantime, the Lord is bringing forth great fruit from the humble sufferings of these priests. They will not go unrewarded for their faith.
The last Bishop was the worst. Bishop Anthony O'Connell. He actually called/emailed/faxes priests to go to the Cathedral for a special meeting. Unbeknownst to them was Bishop O'Connell's actions in queerdom or the real reason they were asked to come to the Cathedral. The Bishop wanted them there while he admitted he'd been caught with kids with his cassock off, so as to appear they were there suporting him. I know one Priest very well who was ROYALLY RIPPED.
My personal experience with Bishop Barbarito has been minimal - and unsatisfying. The Palm Beach Post printed a horrible editorial written by a priest-theologian-teacher from the local Seminary. I responded to the PBP and cited his commments and Catholic Doctrine illustrating his errors and copied Bishop B. and the Diocese. I asked for a response.
The PBP didn't print my letter. (They seldom do). The Bishop/Chancery didn't respomd to me (proly too busy I guess).
C'est la vie
Amen!
"The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of priests, with bishops as its flaming lampposts."
"And as Mary Ann Kreitzer says, build up your good priests, praise them conspicuously, laud them to the bishop"
That will only bring down a sh@tstorm on their heads, if the bishop is a liberal or a homo.
" The good news is, if they suffer faithfully, their reward in Heaven will be great."
Yeah, but how am **I** going to get to Heaven without good priests?
Wow. I didn't know you lived in Palm Beach. That's probably almost as bad as living in St. Pete's - but then, didn't Lynch do a stint in Palm Beach, too? I don't know why these bishops are being left in place. Lynch should have been gone long before the Terri Schiavo case broke, simply because he is known as Bishop Speedo for his fondness for photographing hunks in Speedos and because of the sexual harrassment suit successfully filed by a male lay employee. His performance in the Schiavo case was so awful that he should have been canned immediately upon his return to the US. But he's still there.
Florida flies below the radar, but we have some truly awful bishops, and our seminary (Boynton Beach) has been a notorious Pink Palace for years. I believe the latter is changing, but until there's some major transformations down south (your area) and on the Gulf, things will remain bad here. I'm lucky to have a good bishop here in St. Augustine, and I think the Orlando bishop is pretty good too, from what I've heard.
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The Roman Catholic Church has been in similar, and worse, situations before. To cite one instance, the period of the Reformation. Corruption, sins of moral turpitude, and all manner of un-Christian behaviour were ubiquitous.
But this was all the prelude to the "Counter-Reformation". It was initially a response to the reform movement but it soon took on a life of its own guided by the Holy Spirit.
The Council of Trent, which convened intermittently for 18 years (1545-63) conducted a root and branch reform of the Church. Many volumes have been written about the post-Tridentine Church but, suffice it to say, it DID reform and breath new life into the institutional church.
My point is that genuine, authentic and lasting reform must begin from WITHIN. Martin Luther (whatever one may think of him or his theology) was an obscure monk in holy orders (and many monks are not), a doctor of theology, and a professor at Wittenburg. His initial intention was not to start a "reformation" in 1517 but to REFORM the catholic church.
What will sooner or later happen (in my opinion) is that a movement will begin spontaneously and spread throughout the Roman Catholic Church and fully revitalize and rejuvenate it.
An old saying: the Church is an anvil that's worn out many hammers.
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