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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
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Posted on 03/10/2004 9:37:27 PM PST by malakhi

The Neverending Story
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To: Jim Robinson
Y'all are very close to losing this thread.

It sure would be nice to know what post or posts prompted your comment.

Also, what purpose is served by killing the thread? Why not just deal with posters on an individual basis if they step over the line?

3,241 posted on 04/11/2004 12:19:32 AM PDT by malakhi (L'shana haba'ah b'Yerushalayim!)
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To: Religion Moderator
Ping to my #3,241.
3,242 posted on 04/11/2004 12:22:25 AM PDT by malakhi (L'shana haba'ah b'Yerushalayim!)
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To: malakhi
"Why didn't he compel Saul? Certainly He could have done so."

Yes, He could have compelled Saul. He certainly compelled Jonah. And He compelled Balaam the false prophet to bless Israel when he didn't want to.

The Bible (even the Old Testament) is often unclear why God does something. Take for example Job. God never explains to Job why He allowed Job to go through all those problems. This is part of God's sovereignty and He will not compromise it or explain it.

Personally I believe God lays down the rules and when we follow those rules we are blessed. When we do not follow those rules we have problems. Esther brought blessings on herself and the Jews just for speaking up at the right time. Jonah just sat in a stinking fish while he consider whether to speak up or not. One got a blessing for obedience. The other got body odor.

3,243 posted on 04/11/2004 3:12:18 AM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: Quester
Sorry, I drift on and off. We have lots of company this Easter and I don't get on line too much.

I'm not sure I follow your question about Jesus and Satan. Just as Eve (and Adam) where tempted in the garden by Satan so was Christ tempted.
3,244 posted on 04/11/2004 3:20:17 AM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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To: malakhi; Gamecock
"Is God incapable of empowering man with a truly free will?

God, by definition, is not incapable of anything. Did He empowered man with a free will is the real question?

No is the answer. :O)

3,245 posted on 04/11/2004 3:32:30 AM PDT by HarleyD (For strong is he who carries out God's word. (Joel 2:11))
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3,246 posted on 04/11/2004 3:45:51 AM PDT by IMRight
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3,247 posted on 04/11/2004 3:47:53 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
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3,248 posted on 04/11/2004 3:55:33 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
Christ, the Lord, is risen today, Alleluia!
Sons of men and angels say, Alleluia!
Raise your joys and triumphs high, Alleluia!
Sing, ye heavens, and earth, reply, Alleluia!

Love's redeeming work is done, Alleluia!
Fought the fight, the battle won, Alleluia!
Lo! the Sun's eclipse is over, Alleluia!
Lo! He sets in blood no more, Alleluia!

Vain the stone, the watch, the seal, Alleluia!
Christ hath burst the gates of hell, Alleluia!
Death in vain forbids His rise, Alleluia!
Christ hath opened Paradise, Alleluia!

Lives again our glorious King, Alleluia!
Where, O death, is now thy sting? Alleluia!
Once He died our souls to save, Alleluia!
Where thy victory, O grave? Alleluia!

Soar we now where Christ hath led, Alleluia!
Following our exalted Head, Alleluia!
Made like Him, like Him we rise, Alleluia!
Ours the cross, the grave, the skies, Alleluia!

Hail, the Lord of earth and heaven, Alleluia!
Praise to Thee by both be given, Alleluia!
Thee we greet triumphant now, Alleluia!
Hail, the resurrection day, Alleluia!

King of glory, Soul of bliss, Alleluia!
Everlasting life is this, Alleluia!
Thee to know, Thy power to prove, Alleluia!
Thus to sing and thus to love, Alleluia!

Hymns of praise then let us sing, Alleluia!
Unto Christ, our heavenly King, Alleluia!
Who endured the cross and grave, Alleluia!
Sinners to redeem and save. Alleluia!

But the pains that He endured, Alleluia!
Our salvation have procured, Alleluia!
Now above the sky He's King, Alleluia!
Where the angels ever sing. Alleluia!

Jesus Christ is risen today, Alleluia!
Our triumphant holy day, Alleluia!
Who did once upon the cross, Alleluia!
Suffer to redeem our loss. Alleluia!
3,249 posted on 04/11/2004 3:56:17 AM PDT by IMRight
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3,250 posted on 04/11/2004 3:57:32 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: All

"And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay."

He is Risen! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!


3,251 posted on 04/11/2004 4:08:10 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: RochesterFan; nobdysfool; Wrigley
Y'all in the "unnamed group" that has somehow all suddenly decided to simultaneously start using the phrase "unnamed group" to allow you to incite without leaving fingerprints, there is a flaw in your plan. This is not a court of law. If the staff and I can see what's going on, word games are not going to prevent the inevitable.

As a matter of fact, each one of you came extremely close to finding your accounts permanently banned when I saw the latest shenanigans, due to the fact that it showed that your intention is to find ways around whatever rules are in place and your goal is to continue to be insulting and your goal is to continue to try to create the very atmosphere in the religion forum we are trying to get rid of.

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3,252 posted on 04/11/2004 4:41:07 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: IMRight

3,253 posted on 04/11/2004 4:56:43 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight

Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

Mat 28:6

He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

The sacrifice has been accepted

3,254 posted on 04/11/2004 5:03:49 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: Cvengr
Infants, regardless of their names in the Book of Life, are considered to not yet be accountable for Divine good works, simply because they are not yet of age and accordingly, God is free to bless them with eternal life in heaven without encroaching upon His holiness, integrity, or righteousness.

You have a scripture on that do you not?

No one is in heaven because they deserve to be there..that is the fallacy of your position.

If infants are saved it is because God has mercy on them , not because they are "not accountable" . The bible is full of the judgment of God on the sin of infants .

Happy Easter

3,255 posted on 04/11/2004 5:15:25 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: cpprfld
Hey guy ...

Sorry to hear of your grandmother's passing.

You and your family will be in my prayers.

God Bless

3,256 posted on 04/11/2004 5:25:25 AM PDT by Quester (Is this a trick question ?)
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To: CindyDawg
So yall shop together. I hate to go with my husband. We walk in and he hands me his watch and wants to know how long I need and where to meet him. Anything over 45 minutes pains him. It used to be 30 minutes but I was always late:') Then it's very stressful for him at the check out. It's much healthier for him if he doesn't know what I buy or how much I spend.:') EX: "I thought we were on a diet" "don't we already have some of this at home?" "I don't know why you buy all this food. You know you aren't going to cook" "How much have you put on AE this month?You will be crying like a baby when you have to give me your check to pay YOUR bill next month" and my favorite "didn't you just buy groceries last week"? :')

I'm much worse at home depot though. Ex: "More tools? You have some you haven't even opened yet" "If you would let me organize your garage you wouldn't have to keep buying things" "Are you about ready to go?" "This place is so boring" :')


Well, I need to go grocery shopping with my wife or else she'll come home all grouchy from having to do it herself (and frankly, I don't blame her).

And, if I let her get away from me in one of the big stores, ... I might not see her again for half an hour or so. It's definitely to my advantage to help her get the items she wants.

She can have a hard time making decisions (between brand names ... for example) too, ... so, a lot of the time, I can shortcut that process.

As for the hardware store (Lowes is my favorite), she can only tolerate so much before she's at her wits end.

For her ... its just the amount of time I spend there ... but, I gues that it makes up for the grocery store.

3,257 posted on 04/11/2004 5:35:48 AM PDT by Quester (Is this a trick question ?)
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To: HarleyD
Sorry, I drift on and off. We have lots of company this Easter and I don't get on line too much.

Hey ... enjoy your holiday. I'm not in any rush for an answer.

I'm not sure I follow your question about Jesus and Satan. Just as Eve (and Adam) where tempted in the garden by Satan so was Christ tempted.

I guess I just wondering what this seeming struggle between the Creator Christ and the creature Satan all means in the cosmic drama that Calvinists believe in ?

Was it God's determinate will that Satan attempt to derail Christ from His course ?

3,258 posted on 04/11/2004 5:43:53 AM PDT by Quester (Is this a trick question ?)
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To: malakhi
What I am saying is that since I can't find it supported anywhere in Scripture, it is not so.
3,259 posted on 04/11/2004 6:30:56 AM PDT by Gamecock ("We must remember that Satan has his miracles, too." John Calvin)
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To: malakhi
Cool! Did you have a chance to talk to anyone?

Yes. I even talked to the Rabbi. Gonna make an appt with him next week.

3,260 posted on 04/11/2004 6:35:04 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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