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Critics say Gibson film mimics a hateful book
Detroit Freepress ^ | February 19, 2004 | David Crumm

Posted on 02/20/2004 7:15:28 AM PST by madison10

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:13:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Despite Mel Gibson's effort to disavow any anti-Jewish influence in his film about Jesus' death, his critics are firing back with fresh evidence that the movie closely follows an anti-Jewish book by a 19th-Century German nun.

In a nationally televised interview this week, Gibson said he based his violent portrayal of Jesus' torture and crucifixion on the Bible. He acknowledged that he has read Anne Catherine Emmerich's 1833 book about Jesus' death, but said he was unaware of anti-Jewish references in it.


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1 posted on 02/20/2004 7:15:29 AM PST by madison10
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To: madison10
What book of the Bible is this in?

"The only role the Bible says the Pharisees have in the passion of Jesus is, in one case they try to warn him that there's a plot against his life," said Eugene Fisher, the spokesman on interfaith relations for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, D.C.

2 posted on 02/20/2004 7:17:20 AM PST by madison10
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To: madison10
Incoming...
3 posted on 02/20/2004 7:18:19 AM PST by Fury
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To: madison10
Hhhmmm....seems the Cornerstone continues to be a stumbling block.....
4 posted on 02/20/2004 7:20:20 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: madison10
You do ask an interesting question.

What I keep finding from those who want Mel's head forget that all this was foretold in the Book of Psalms 22

Christ even taught that chapter while hanging on that cross.

Do not be alarmed by those who seek to destroy one.
5 posted on 02/20/2004 7:23:30 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: anniegetyourgun
Well put.
6 posted on 02/20/2004 7:23:40 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: madison10
That is in the NFG (New Feel Good) Bible read by liberals.
7 posted on 02/20/2004 7:28:09 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: madison10
If the New Testament is a hateful book, what is the Koran?
8 posted on 02/20/2004 7:29:05 AM PST by Reelect President Dubya (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: madison10
I have an idea. Let's get a bunch of Christian leaders and Jewish leaders together to argue about one man's representation of what happened 2000 years ago. While we're doing that, the Islamists can proceed in their quest to murder us all.

Sheesh...
9 posted on 02/20/2004 7:29:29 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: madison10
"Here's one example. There's this whole brutal scene in the movie in which Jesus' captors hang him over a bridge by chains and then yank him back up again," Rudin said. "That's nowhere in the New Testament. Where did it come from?"

What to do? I guess make NO movie about Christ, as there is bound to be SOMETHING in the movie that is not in Scripture.

The scene is nearly identical to one in Emmerich's book, where she describes a Jewish group, the Pharisees, egging on a mixed group of Romans and Jews to heighten Jesus' suffering.

Not even close. Emmerich's book does not even come close to describing what is written in the previous paragraph of this story.

10 posted on 02/20/2004 7:30:09 AM PST by Fury
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To: madison10
bump for later
11 posted on 02/20/2004 7:32:10 AM PST by The Mayor (No service for Christ goes unnoticed by Him.)
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To: madison10
The so-called "hateful book" is online here:

http://www.emmerich1.com/DOLOROUS_PASSION_OF_OUR_LORD_JESUS_CHRIST.htm#PREFACE%20TO%20THE%20FRENCH%20TRANSLATION

I haven't read it myself but I'm willing to bet that it is no more "anti-semitic" than Mel's movie, which is to say it probably isn't anti-semitic at all.

12 posted on 02/20/2004 7:33:26 AM PST by westerfield
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To: Fury
He acknowledged that he has read Anne Catherine Emmerich's 1833 book about Jesus' death, but said he was unaware of anti-Jewish references in it.

The way I parse this is he did use the book but does not consider any of it be be antisemetic.

"Here's one example. There's this whole brutal scene in the movie in which Jesus' captors hang him over a bridge by chains and then yank him back up again," Rudin said. "That's nowhere in the New Testament. Where did it come from?"

    I've not read Emmerich's 1833 book.
  1. Is this scene described in the book ?

13 posted on 02/20/2004 7:37:14 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: madison10
"Until Gibson started talking about Emmerich,"

IIRC, it was in response to a question by Primetime's Diane Sawyer.

14 posted on 02/20/2004 7:42:10 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: af_vet_1981
Have you read the NEW TESTMENT?
15 posted on 02/20/2004 7:42:29 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: madison10
Anti-semitism must be completely repudiated and condemned in no uncertain terms.

This is not in any way in conflict with Jesus Christ and His teachings. In fact, it is consistent with them.

The hideous disease of anti-semitism has never been more thoroughly and wholeheartedly repudiated and condemned than it is in the American Heartland today.

16 posted on 02/20/2004 7:42:49 AM PST by Savage Beast (Whom will the terrorists vote for? Not George W. Bush--that's for sure! ~Happy2BMe)
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To: madison10
Liberals are the most confused people on the face of the earth. Desicrating Jesus Christ or flashing the world at the Super Bowl is free speech and to be celebrated, but showing reverence to Jesus is hate speech??? Wonder what or who germinates such confusion. These people cannot tolerate Christians and always have to bring the race card out of any argument they lose. God Bless Mel Gibson and The Passion!

Pray for W and The Truth

17 posted on 02/20/2004 7:42:56 AM PST by bray (Vote Kerry, 10,000 Al Queda can't be wrong!)
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To: madison10
"The only role the Bible says the Pharisees have in the passion of Jesus is, in one case they try to warn him that there's a plot against his life," said Eugene Fisher....

Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him. (Matthew 12:14)

And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet. (Matthew 21:45f)

Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. (Matthew 22:15)

I could go on, but let it suffice to say that Eugene Fisher doesn't know Scripture.

18 posted on 02/20/2004 7:43:25 AM PST by Theo
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To: madison10
However, John Dominic Crossan, a Catholic Bible scholar

This man is not a Catholic priest and it is debatable whether he is a Catholic, or even a Christian. In fact, he is not a Christian by any normal definition.

19 posted on 02/20/2004 7:43:35 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
He should have used the Mother Goose or Grimm's Fairytales versions :-}
20 posted on 02/20/2004 7:46:11 AM PST by tiki
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