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Power Crisis Originated at Parma Ohio GM Plant (south of Cleveland)
Cleveland News Channel 5
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Posted on 08/15/2003 3:02:52 PM PDT by Petronski
The lead, breaking story on Cleveland local news is that officials at Parma's GM plant just south of Cleveland had a power anomaly which is now believed to be the initial source of the trouble on the Lake Erie Loop.
TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: blackout; cleveland; factory; generalmotors; holdmuhbreaker; lakeerie; megazot; poweroutage
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To: TheCrusader
Scarey thought to think anyone named Iqbal Husain has such intricate and insider knowledge of our electrical grid system.Just to play devil's advocate... There are over 6 million Muslims in the nation, a great majority were born and raised here... A great majority from non-Arab countries... Would you propose we not allow anyone with a Mus name in on any of these "secrets"? How would you possibly safeguard against it? How would you justify this to a 5th generation American whose name happens to by of Islamic origin?
I love FR, but there are so many racists here, it's unbelievable. You don't limit your hate to the Arabs who perpetrated the 911 and other heinous crimes, you're trying to pin collective blame on every Muslim in the world, including many who are good, solid, contributing citizens of our good old USA.
So much for freedom of religion, etc. Remember the Constitution? Surely, had you been around during WWII, you would have supported the forced internment of all Japanese, right?
To: mpreston
How long until people realize that having your own grid is a good thing...i.e. Oregononians paying for Cali's messed up system.
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:39:20 PM PDT
by
EBUCK
(FIRE!....rounds downrange! http://www.azfire.org)
To: Petronski
An anomaly at a car manufacturing plant caused a cascade that brought down 10 percent of the NE grid, according to Iqbal Husain. OK
Can we await some kind of confirmation? This sounds like just another theory to add to the string.
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:39:20 PM PDT
by
cake_crumb
(UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
To: Petronski
Moon over Parma, bring my love to me tonight.
Guide her to Cleveland, underneath your silvery light.
We're going bowlin'
So don't loose her in Solon.
Moon over Parma, tonight!
To: mpreston
How long before Bush is linked to Texas being on their own grid?Hitlery blaming Bush on this is absolutely disgusting. As a matter of fact, ANYTHING this a$$ does is absolutely disgusting. An opportunistic lying, deceiving, conniving bi+ch!
To: Petronski
Cleveland Rocks!
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:41:42 PM PDT
by
ZviTheWise
("Everybody in this house needs to calm down and eat some fruit or something." -- Mel Gibson, "Signs")
To: Shermy
If GM is producing Crown Victorias, I'd say we got a bigger problem than an "anomoly".
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:42:42 PM PDT
by
IYAS9YAS
(Go Fast, Turn Left!)
To: mpreston
That should be a positive for him. He was governor of a state smart enough to be self-reliant.
To: NYC Republican; TheCrusader
Scarey thought to think anyone named Iqbal Husain has such intricate and insider knowledge of our electrical grid system. No, what's really scary is our professed insiders and overseers seemingly lack intricate knowledge of our electrical grid system. I saw them admit as much on tv...
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:44:34 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: NYC Republican
probably-BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY
To: Shermy
Isn't there a scientific theory that says a device or mechanism of sufficient complexity will begin to develop unexplainable quirks akin to a 'personality?'
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:46:51 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(I'm not always cranky.)
To: y2k_free_radical
probably-BETTER SAFE THAN SORRYHow can you, without taking away their amendment rights? I agree wholeheartedly about screening at airports and such, that we should perform targeted screening, but I definitely would draw the line here.
To: Shermy
No, what's really scary is our professed insiders and overseers seemingly lack intricate knowledge of our electrical grid system. I saw them admit as much on tv...Exactly. Once again, incompetence gets us in trouble.
To: Petronski
Spaceweather.com is reporting this...
Readers have asked if solar activity could be responsible for the widespread blackout in the eastern US and Canada. Not likely. There were no strong solar flares or geomagnetic activity yesterday to trigger the outage.
But, they follow-up with this update...
Two days ago sunspot 431 was small and unremarkable. Now it's larger than the planet Jupiter, and poses a threat for powerful X-class solar flares. The spot is easy to see, but never stare at the sun. Always use safe solar observing techniques.
Scientists classify solar flares according to their x-ray brightness in the wavelength range 1 to 8 Angstroms. There are 3 categories: X-class flares are big; they are major events that can trigger planet-wide radio blackouts and long-lasting radiation storms. From SpaceWeather.com
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:50:42 PM PDT
by
Mr.Atos
To: TexasRepublic
it might pop a fuse or something...." Time to change panties LOL
I like much better than squirrel
This calls for a haiku BRB
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:52:47 PM PDT
by
txhurl
To: Petronski
Latest I heard from ABC news was that there was an undervoltage in MI, followed seconds later by the undervoltage at the Cleveland GM plant. The cascade lasted nine seconds until operators at a Pennsylvania facility intervened. The report was that had they not stopped decoupled PA from the grid the cascade would have run south to Florida and west to the Rockies.
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:53:31 PM PDT
by
Squawk 8888
(Everyone knows you can't have a successful conspiracy without a Rockefeller)
To: jaz.357
a power anomaly???anomaly??, that's about as vague as you can get..
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:55:54 PM PDT
by
my right
To: IYAS9YAS
"If GM is producing Crown Victorias, I'd say we got a bigger problem than an 'anomoly'."Well, it was after the power failure that Crown Vics suddenly began rolling off the GM assembly line.
To: joonbug
Do you think that is any different than saying everything bad is Clinton's fault? I get tired of hearing it from both sides.
I'm not in a good mood. No patience with stupid people today.
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:59:02 PM PDT
by
KCmark
(I am NOT a partisan.)
To: Petronski
Isn't that part of chaos theory?
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posted on
08/15/2003 3:59:07 PM PDT
by
Domestic Church
(AMDG.. is there a leaning power of Parma now?)
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