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New Dinosaur Species Found in India
AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

Posted on 08/13/2003 9:02:05 PM PDT by nwrep

New Dinosaur Species Found in India
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By RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM, Associated Press Writer

BOMBAY, India - U.S. and Indian scientists said Wednesday they have discovered a new carnivorous dinosaur species in India after finding bones in the western part of the country.

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The new dinosaur species was named Rajasaurus narmadensis, or "Regal reptile from the Narmada," after the Narmada River region where the bones were found.

The dinosaurs were between 25-30 feet long, had a horn above their skulls, were relatively heavy and walked on two legs, scientists said. They preyed on long-necked herbivorous dinosaurs on the Indian subcontinent during the Cretaceous Period at the end of the dinosaur age, 65 million years ago.

"It's fabulous to be able to see this dinosaur which lived as the age of dinosaurs came to a close," said Paul Sereno, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago. "It was a significant predator that was related to species on continental Africa, Madagascar and South America."

Working with Indian scientists, Sereno and paleontologist Jeff Wilson of the University of Michigan reconstructed the dinosaur skull in a project funded partly by the National Geographic (news - web sites) Society.

A model of the assembled skull was presented Wednesday by the American scientists to their counterparts from Punjab University in northern India and the Geological Survey of India during a Bombay news conference.

Scientists said they hope the discovery will help explain the extinction of the dinosaurs and the shifting of the continents — how India separated from Africa, Madagascar, Australia and Antarctica and collided with Asia.

The dinosaur bones were discovered during the past 18 years by Indian scientists Suresh Srivastava of the Geological Survey of India and Ashok Sahni, a paleontologist at Punjab University.

When the bones were examined, "we realized we had a partial skeleton of an undiscovered species," Sereno said.

The scientists said they believe the Rajasaurus roamed the Southern Hemisphere land masses of present-day Madagascar, Africa and South America.

"People don't realize dinosaurs are the only large-bodied animal that lived, evolved and died at a time when all continents were united," Sereno said.

The cause of the dinosaurs' extinction is still debated by scientists. The Rajasaurus discovery may provide crucial clues, Sereno said.

India has seen quite a few paleontological discoveries recently.

In 1997, villagers discovered about 300 fossilized dinosaur eggs in Pisdura, 440 miles northeast of Bombay, that Indian scientists said were laid by four-legged, long-necked vegetarian creatures.

Indian scientists said the dinosaur embryos in the eggs may have suffocated during volcanic eruptions.


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KEYWORDS: acanthostega; antarctica; australia; catastrophism; crevolist; dino; dinosaurs; godsgravesglyphs; ichthyostega; india; madagascar; narmadabasin; narmadensis; paleontology; rajasaurus; rino
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To: AndrewC
I also do not tail people to see what they do.

I do not limit myself to reading or posting only on FreeRepublic. When someone I know shows up (on another site) spewing vitriol and badmouthing otherwise good conservatives because of their stand on natural science, I notice.

My guess is that she was simply unable to reconcile her knowledge of Hovind as a seemingly smart and nice old man with other's knowledge of his being an utter crackpot.

721 posted on 08/18/2003 9:02:33 AM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance never settles a question. -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: Nakatu X
She came back under a false identity as well

Someone noted I miss a lot, I also seem to have missed this. How was that determined? Did she fess up?

722 posted on 08/18/2003 9:04:10 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: balrog666
For those who find the term "crackpot" offensive, I suggest: "psychoceramic."
723 posted on 08/18/2003 9:04:34 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Aric2000
It's sad that some view science as liberal. I consider it very conservative myself. In order for a scientific viewpoint survive the test of time, it comes under massive scrutiny. I doubt that there has been any theory that has come under more peer review than the theory of evolution.
724 posted on 08/18/2003 9:04:56 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: VadeRetro
Thank you for your post!

Indeed, I don't know how the Admin Mod's ascertain that a person is here under a false identity - but evidently they do figure it out rather quickly.

It seems the big indicator that someone was posting under a false identity is that, when the identity is banned, every trace of its postings seem to disappear as well.

725 posted on 08/18/2003 9:07:02 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: VadeRetro
She became an activist on drug-legalization.

I myself am an activist on the drug-legalization threads, and have never had any problem. IIRC, her banning stemmed from a discussion on abortion.

726 posted on 08/18/2003 9:09:23 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: DittoJed2
Actual recognizable dinosaurs.

like Nessie?

727 posted on 08/18/2003 9:09:48 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: AndrewC; Nakatu X
Someone noted I miss a lot, I also seem to have missed this.

You and me both - when did Jedigirl try sneaking back on, and how do we know that to be the case?

728 posted on 08/18/2003 9:09:53 AM PDT by general_re (A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
"It is not a threat! It is a statement of fact. It is an insult to Jim Robinson and the Administrative Moderators to say that they would even consider a person's views on origins as a basis for banning. "

especially since their own views on origin are likely just as diverse as on this thread.
729 posted on 08/18/2003 9:11:17 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: VadeRetro
Dont forget JediGirl. Banned from an abortion thread I believe.
730 posted on 08/18/2003 9:12:32 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: general_re
You and me both - when did Jedigirl try sneaking back on, and how do we know that to be the case?

Somehow or other she had created the unfamiliar account first but abandoned it for the JediGirl name. I remember her using the older account to freepmail me once after her banning.

731 posted on 08/18/2003 9:14:37 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: xzins; Revelation 911; The Grammarian; SpookBrat; Dust in the Wind; JesseShurun; maestro; patent; ..
What a waste of time!

If evos were interested in objective science, or facts they wouldn't be evos. Why argue with them? They're only running from God, and we all have done that until we learned better, haven't we?

Don't argue, pray for them.

732 posted on 08/18/2003 9:16:09 AM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Why argue with them?

Then why are you here?

733 posted on 08/18/2003 9:18:23 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: StolarStorm
Exactly, Evolution has been one of the most tested, most closely scrutinized theories in science, and it continues to hold up to all tests given.

But when a theory in science competes or disagrees with a literal interpretation of the bible, some are bound to get a little bit PO'd. Not many, but some, and they are a very vocal group, and minority in the christian religion.

It's too bad too, because trying to use religion to somehow discredit a scientific theory, tells me a lot about the person attempting it.

And to hear some of the "evidence" that YEC's come up with to say that evolution is false is hilarious, the problem is, they actually believe it. Which is the saddest part of all.

If their faith is hinged on the bible being totally unerring in every way shape or form, and that EVERY story has to be the literal truth, then I believe that that person has a problem with thier faith.

It is time for them to take a close look at themselves and why they need to believe literally in order to have the faith in god that they have chosen, instead of blaming a scientific theory for their lack of same.
734 posted on 08/18/2003 9:19:35 AM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: StolarStorm
That's a good point! Thank you!
735 posted on 08/18/2003 9:24:40 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"psychoceramic"

Brilliant. Alliterative, concise, accurate, synonymous, funny... I do believe a new term has been coined. (New to me anyway.)
736 posted on 08/18/2003 9:25:58 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke
I actually heard it many (too many) years ago. Probably dates to the 1930s. As it's not in use, I would like to reintroduce it.
737 posted on 08/18/2003 9:27:16 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Indeed, I don't know how the Admin Mod's ascertain that a person is here under a false identity - but evidently they do figure it out rather quickly.

I seem to be having trouble getting off of this topic, despite an earlier declaraton. LOL!

Probably duplications in the ISP packet info. Some sort of batch job might be scanning the data base regularly looking for such. I know that sounds CPU-intensive when you think about going through 80,000 items comparing them all to each other. The job can be low-priority so it runs in the background. Or maybe the mods only check (manually) when they get a ping or notice something themselves.

If a person uses a different computer and a different ISP in the second registration versus the first, I can't imagine how you would tell definitively.

738 posted on 08/18/2003 9:27:45 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Aric2000
Er, if I may comment on your post...

If their faith is hinged on the bible being totally unerring in every way shape or form, and that EVERY story has to be the literal truth, then I believe that that person has a problem with thier faith.

If a person's faith is hanging on a thread - any thread - then what is accomplished by severing it? Indeed, it seems to me that others so situated would be very threatened by such an attempt.

739 posted on 08/18/2003 9:30:05 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: VadeRetro
Ah, thanks for the insight! I will now also withdraw from the subject so it can be concluded.
740 posted on 08/18/2003 9:31:57 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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